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#1 Posted : 27 March 2007 09:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Ellis

I've been teaching for 9years(in Asia) and hope to use these facilitator/presentation skills etc in a HSE career. I'm planning on doing a Nebosh Cert in June.

I'm hoping to go for a trainer post or entry level consultant job as I feel that my educational career is relevant for a training position.
(I also have a LAW degree)

I'm open to any advice about this. Am I being realistic in my expectations? Would employers and agencies see my teaching experience as being relevant to a HSE trainer post?

Regards

Stuart sjaellis@gmail.com
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#2 Posted : 27 March 2007 12:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By garyh
The issue would possibly be that you probably lack experience of workplace safety issues. When conducting safety training events part of the skillset is presentational and training skills, the other part is relating the theory to reality, in my view.

Having said that, your teaching skills might well land you a role with a training company. I have seen trainers in action who know their subject but are poor presenters and teachers.

Good luck!
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#3 Posted : 28 March 2007 12:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
The HSE training field is well catered for Swamped you might say).
Many very good trainers are people who have "walked the walk" and are now downshifting.

Unfortunately there are many others who have gone into this field with little more that a Cert (12 weeks) and a train the trainer (3 or 4 days). They have very little experience and are giving the "industry" a bad name.

The old adage "those who can do those who can't teach" holds true.




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#4 Posted : 29 March 2007 11:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By James M
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I recently overheard some of our senior managers who are very experienced and competent in their roles discussing a recent course where they had to step out of their comfort zones and stand up and present general information about their day to day work to strangers.

They all stated it was extremely difficult and felt uneasy at having to stand in front of others and be ready for any quick fire questions that the audience may offer.

Personally, I am a HSE manager and trainer. I do like training and find it intereseting and enjoyable teaching others.

However, some of my colleauges have categorically stated that they won't do training. What are their fears?

Is it they are not smart enough to answer the questions? Is the stress too much?

The fact is the have not tried it and they also use the old adage "those who can do those who can't teach"

My old adage to them is "Walk a mile in someone else's mochasins before you judge"
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#5 Posted : 29 March 2007 11:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker
I was not saying an experienced person ALWAYS makes a good trainer. What I said was, without experience I doubt many people would be good trainers

Just found this thought it was apt:

A little learning is a dangerous thing; drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring: there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain, and drinking largely sobers us again.

Alexander Pope (1688 - 1744) in An Essay on Criticism, 1709
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#6 Posted : 30 March 2007 07:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Ellis
Guys

Thanks for all of your responses. I believe that training/passing on knowledge is a certain skill but of course EXPERIENCE is quite essential - However, we know that initial experience is hard to get in HSE.
Also, those that 'Can do' cannot always teach (train) and vice versa. Thanks again for your advice.
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#7 Posted : 20 April 2007 12:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Liz Bennett
I would recommend that you consider your law degree as a big asset. Many H&S people have a very poor understanding on the legal system and law in practice. With overseas experience you may find it useful to think about H&S for multi-national companies or those who wish to move into overseas markets. I have found that considering H&S training rather like teaching maths to a group of reluctant 15 year olds helps to get the pitch just about right!
Good luck with your certificate and career.
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