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#1 Posted : 09 November 2007 15:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Beevers What's it like to be a Consultant? I'm thinking of leaving my current job to become one, but would like to know what others know it involves. I like: Working hard. Seeing new places / dealing with new people. Having to learn about new hazards and management and applying the knowledge. Helping people improve their working lives. I can't stand: Petty office politics. Dealing with the same hazards day in day out. Being stuck in one place. I'm hoping a consultancy job will have lots of the former, and not too much of the latter. Can anyone let me know if this is the case? Al.
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#2 Posted : 09 November 2007 15:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian G Hutchings Richard It sounds like you would fit the bill. I have always found that since working in consultancy I have worked much much harder than before. My clients would joke about this but it is true. What are you like at; being a sales person? working to strict deadlines? producing very high quality reports/documents? influencing hard nosed people? nights away from home and working on your own? not helping people unless you have a contract and get paid (I found this hard at first)? You can still get the politics if you work in a company. It can be lonely at times and you will usually be held very accountable for the quality of your work. Sounds interesting - go for it! All the best Ian
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#3 Posted : 09 November 2007 19:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By CFT Richard I did it for 5 years, and went back to employment because my main client had me monopolised for the entire time! I prefer the regularity of payment now and that all months are good, not some! Good luck if you do. CFT
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#4 Posted : 10 November 2007 09:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By AHS Richard Make no mistake its hard building up clients there is a lot of competition out there and frankly lady luck also plays a hand. All the best. AHS
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#5 Posted : 11 November 2007 10:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Lucas Go for it Richard, I made the move three and half years ago and quite simply the best thing I ever did and very rewarding it has been. I have found that I've actually played a part and made a difference to workers lives and ultimately reduced accidents/incidents within the organisations I have worked for. Quite honestly I've achieved more in this short period of time than in the previous twenty years - like you mention predominantly because of politics and up and coming your thrusters with other agendas. All the best. Ken
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#6 Posted : 11 November 2007 20:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By TONY Richard I was H&S manager for a blue chip company before taking redundancy, I went straight into Consultancy and had a great time i had work coming out of my ears and was raking it in. Then i went through a quite patch and had to watch my spending during this time i was head hunted by a Construction company with an offer i could not refuse. This is what i learnt and the pros and cons: When times are good put money away to cover the quite periods, make sure your Clients settle invoices promptly you only need a few months delay and thats the difference between sinking or swimming, know your limitations i'm Chartered and i don't for one minute say i know it all when your not sure seek guidance from a specialist ie Asbestos etc. The best part of Consultancy is that if you advise! if the Client decides not to action your recommendations thats up to him you can only advise. The other thing is no matter how crap a project is theres always a light at the end of the tunnel saying not much longer here. Employed Regular pay no chasing invoices from Clients, paid holidays, paid sickness, (in some cases healthcare and travel paid) The biggest negative GETTING THEM TO DO WHAT YOU WANT AND STICKING TO IT. I'm in the latter at the moment and seriously thinking about going back into Consultantcy again i've missed it a lot. Feel free to email me with your number if you want my advice. Tony
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#7 Posted : 03 January 2008 21:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Helenp Richard Check out the Edinburgh IOSH website for a current consultancy vacancy if you're interested. Regards H
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#8 Posted : 04 January 2008 08:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel Whilst I am now in a 'permanent' position I have worked as a consultant for many years and still undertake out-side work comissions, so;- On many occasuions over the last 10 years whilst I have been permanent there have been many occasions where people have approached me to get them / give them consultancy work and I have tried to put work out to other people and in almost every case the people who have always had permanent jobs have failed to perform What I am saying is that whilst it is a very good way to go it has lots more liabilities and responsibilities than a PAYE position has so you have to be prepared for it - additionally your marketing and sales skills must be as good as your H&S skills along with being a good accountant and contract negotiator, and you need to spend a very large amount of time looking for work as against doing it in the first few years You will never know it till you try it so have a go - and get a good accountant ASAP
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#9 Posted : 04 January 2008 10:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kevin Coghill There seems to be more of a thread to being a self-employed consultant going on here. I spent 9+ years as a company employed consultant (not self-employed), 8 of them with a global insurance company and there were (like any job pros & cons). IF you work for a consultancy then you must be prepared to be targated on financial performance. Some are better than others in what is acheivable and whether or not you have to be your own salesman or whether there is a dedicated sales force providing warm/hot leads. You must also be prepared for jobs that will be akin to "dipping in and dipping out" because that is all the the client has paid for and you need to move onto the next fee earning job. I left because I wanted to get my hands dirty as it were & I was sick of being measured on financial targets over which I had no direct control - primarily beacuse the sales team was made redundant! Oh and this was with the largest global insurance broker, so biggest isn't always best either! Being away from home travelling the world is fun for a while - then all hotel rooms start to look the same. Pro's and con's as ever so good luck with whatever you decide.
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#10 Posted : 04 January 2008 12:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Richard, If you go to "update my details" and make an e-mail address viewable to others, you may increase your chances of off forum feedback. Hope this helps
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#11 Posted : 04 January 2008 17:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By stephen smith Richard, I built up my consultancy whilst in full time work and then moved when a large long term contract arrived and hence have reduced my risks. The large contract was less than 20% of turnover though and so I kept my diversity I love it, but, chasing money is the worst part. Making a real difference and choosing who you work with is the best. There is no better feeling than reducing real time accidents or letting the primieval MD go. regards & good luck stephen
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#12 Posted : 08 January 2008 08:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Elizabeth Reeves Are you considering working for a company as a consultant, or setting up on your own? I would suggest that you try it first working for a health and safety consultancy company, that way you can maintain the regular pay and comforts of full time employment.
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#13 Posted : 10 January 2008 14:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richiek It depends on the financial constraints. If you sign up with a consultancy it ties you up and does not allow much time for marketing and developing your business. Look at your core business and go for it. I cannot stress qualifications and experience are crucial. I am now reaping the benefits at last but I have had a few wobbly moments ref going back into full time employment. Took me 10 months!!!! Give your self a year and assess at the end of the period. Try for three months work ahead and you need to chase the invoices. You need discipline for accounts and marketing. Be prepared for let downs but sod them and move on.I have gone for most things and I now able to choose. I set myself a limit of an Hourly rate and didnt budge. Lots of people have overnight become fire and fire engineering experts and are willing to work for 15-20 pounds and hour. Depends how desperate you are at first. Stick with it mate its worth it.
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#14 Posted : 11 January 2008 10:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rasput Richard, I'm not sure if I qualify as a consultant (maybe it's just the title) but I made the leap to self employment and rather than seeking 'bits and pieces' I am currently working on a 12-18 month construction contract. This has helped reduce the risks and will allow me to build up enough cash reserves to bridge the gap (if needed) at the end of this contract. To be honest with you, I love it. If you can deal with living away from home and working anywhere in the country, I would recommend it. I work 11 days on, 3 days off. The hardest thing for me is not seeing my 6 month old girl for 11 days but the day rate justfies the reason I am happy to live away (to provide for my family). If you want to discuss anything, feel free to contact me. Best regards R
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