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Wrong Job Decision - How Long Do you Give It?
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Posted By The Flux
I am curious to get feedback or advice on what to do when you have made the wrong job selection and career decision.
I started a job four months ago, all appeared good from the information and potential after interview etc, but reality is not living up to the stated or expected, and to mildly put it, have had an eye opening insight into poor management and the wielding of knives to save their own positions!
The potential of the job could be there, if given the opportunity with the right line management, but long term structure of role and contracts doesn't seem forth coming at the moment, and therefore reviewing my situation.
One thing that I am conscious of is how this will look on my CV, should I leave it for longer and see what happens, or should I pack my bags and get out of Dodge?
If any one has any experiences with this or insights, I'd would like to hear them.
Thank you.
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Posted By jeffrey david smith
Several things to consider.
Your posting states that the potential is there providing there are modifications to the existing structure. You could consider this job as a challenge and just go for it! Anything you do would obviously be an improvement and at this stage, you have nothing to loose.
As for leaving, you need to give it 'a good shot'. I would state a minimum of being a year in a post before 'a good shot' has been had.
Settle in your mind what you want to do before you take another jump into another similar situation.
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
There's no point staying somewhere where you are getting stresed over the frustration of not being able to carry out the intended job as you understood it.
If there really is no hope of being able to influence changes then for your health's sake try somewhere else.
Have an answer ready for interviews on why you are wishing to leave current post. be truthful but not nasty and phrase it round constructive to you rather then destructive to them.
I would use phrases (needs to be how you would speak) I'm actively seeking a new position as having started in my current post I've found that the work duties do not quite meet my expectations in furthering my career.
If asked for examples: say along lines (don't lie though they might know one another, I was hoping to be included in management decisions to improve the HS&W of employees thus making the company a more attractive employer.
or hopefully new job would be nearer home?
Just some ideas to work on
Good luck
Lilian
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Posted By A Campbell
I had a similar dilemma when took a job and 6 months in was at the whim of compliance manager such as toilet cleaning audits at Heathrow (as if they have good press anyway!)
I took the big decision to leap and was honest on interviews... haven't looked back now!
Good luck
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Posted By David Bannister
Some years ago I made a bad employment decision and knew by the end of the 2nd week. It was a combination of unbearable commute, wrong working environment and going back to working for a company.
During the 4th week I approached the MD and we agreed to part on amicable terms. I went back to my self-employed status and have never looked back. However, I know that this is an unusual situation and I was very lucky to be able to resume my work with my clients, each of whom had been informed of my new status and each of who were happy to continue their relationship with me.
I know of an individual who has decided to stick it out for 12 months in a job they don't like, just so that it doesn't look too bad on their CV.
As a potential employer I would be happy to accept an explanation for a short-term job as a mistake, provided the remainder of the CV is OK.
We each have different expectations from work and have different tolerances to things that bother us. If we always get it right at interview we are lucky.
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Posted By steve e ashton
Unlucky decision Flux.
I suspect quite a few of us have fallen for a rose tinted vision offered during recuitment and regretted it soon after. I was stuck with my own mistake for 10 months.
I realised my error after about six weeks. I was able to stomach it for a while (the triumph of hope over rational expectation) but began looking for an 'out' after about four months. I seriously thought about packing it all in and doing bar work at around eight months - then got the job offer I had been hoping for - and happily handed in my notice.
My own feeling is that this episode still looks out-of-place on my CV... I was asked about it at a job interview sixteen years later.
My advice: Act now to protect your own sanity but... make sure you have a positive and plausible explanation for the short stay with your current position.
Good luck with the next one...
Steve
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Posted By ClaireL
Like others I was also 'misled' about a post I was offered. I found the role unbearable after only the first week and it was made clear that the job I thought I was getting was not going to happen. Luckily I was offered another job instantly elsewhere and so resigned after only one month. I consider this to be a short enough time to 'erase' it from my CV in the future.
I think at four months you are pushing it in being able to erase it from your CV but not impossible. The longer you leave it the more of a problem it will become.
I was able to tell my new employer that the job was not as I expected and they accepted that these things happen. You can look for another job but you really have to sell the negative as a positive. ie, yes, I know I've not been there long but the job wasn't what I expected and so I felt that in the interst of my career development it was better to get out sooner rather than later etc etc
I think you either have to get out now or stick it out for a least 12-18 months so that it doesn't look bad on your CV in future.
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Posted By Glyn Atkinson
If it's any consolation, I sussed out a hopeless contract job of safety auditing in Birmingham within 4 hours of starting.
A programme of audits planned for an eight hour day would have taken three realistic days to complete.
It was just a complete amateur way of working with no meal times or journey times built into a working day travelling in the rush hour traffic, no plan for journeys to help with travel, so jumped after four hours.
I was honest in my appraisal of the job back to the safety consultant that got me the work, and got paid for one full day + travel each way, and I don't even put the short episode into my C/V.
I think that you need to clear the air with your employer if possible, stress will surely follow if you allow these worries to build up over time and possibly even your health could suffer - no job is worth that!
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Posted By MGF
Honesty is the best practice,
'Conflict with management issues, asked to undertake things against your code of ethics' can all be used as reasons, there are always 2 sides to the story and yours will differ from theirs.
Probably based on their perceptions that you are the health and safety bod, and anything at all to do with that is your remit, and its your fault if it not done.
If you can, pop it on CV, explain reasons for your decision to leave, and even better if the employer previous to this can still give a good reference for future jobs etc, as you know you probably wont have a decent one from these, and it covers the requirement for an employer based reference.
MGF
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Posted By Martin CMIOSH
It seems that this is actually quite common. I had my own experience along similar lines and it didn't do me any long term harm.
The two key points to consider are that one 4-6 month job on a CV is acceptable but if there are several then it is you who appears (to an interviewer) as the problem.
The other is how much do you need the job/money. If you can afford it then you have a couple of options:
a) walk away and enjoy the summer, whilst re-evaluating your career,
b) Kick up a fuss and politely, diplomatically but firmly state what needs to happen. They might fire you, or they might start listening!
When I was in this situation I did the former, but wished I had done the latter with hindsight.
If you can't afford to be without a job, then keep your head down and plough on, whilst looking for a job that really does meet your needs. It is always better to leave on your own terms when the time is right.
Finally, I would caution against the depression that is fairly common in the first 6 months after starting working. It is typical to feel that not enough progress is being made quickly enough. You just need to find the way to get things done in the new organisation (and for others to realise what you can do!)
Hope this helps
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Posted By jason preston
In my opinion you are better off putting yourself back out there in the job market if you are not happy regardless of time. I have done it a couple of times in the last two years and ended up much better off financially and career wise. Everyone is afforded a wrong decision.
I was employed in my current role to do a specific job that never materialised, so I am quite downhearted at the moment myself.
However if I went to a recruitment agent I know offers of interviews will come as before.
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Posted By TBC
Like the others in this thread I to have had two posts that sounded great and didn't pan out the way they should due to others. One was for an American company how were insistent on what they called JSA's Job Safety Analysis (US style)-forget Risk Assessments (UK style). This job was also had other problems in the shape of my immediate boss a HR Director (female) who also thought she know all about H&S. She seemed to hate the fact that I got things done and the workforce really liked my training sessions and style of working. She would arrange meetings and not tell me so that I would turn up late and unprepared. I lasted three months and had to leave - I didn't bother to mention that on my CV. The other job was as another suggested doing a paper chase of audits - phone up before you go (to make sure they were prepared for you) and fill in the boxes - pat on head and leave. Turn up unexpected and sometimes total chaos - that lasted a month and I didn't mention that on CVs either. It didn't bother some big names in banking and manufacturing that I worked for later that I had gaps. I put it down to doing some contract self-employed bits. If you’re not happy get something else with a company that appreciates you.
Good luck in your search.
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Posted By Christopher Black
I go along with a lot of what is said but would feel that you should give it at least a couple of months more and then leave if you want with good reasons and rationale behind your decision. Even bad exeriences are valuable in the long term, if it doesnt kill you it can only make you stronger.
I moved from a safe and cosy environment a few years ago into a somewhat more exposed position and felt that I had made a mistake after a few days because of my interactions with one individual, what I didnt expect was that another member of staff took it upon themself to mentor and counsel me, it wasnt long before i began to feel more assertive and confident. I still moved on after 2 years but gained much needed experience of working in adverse conditions and building the right network of like-minded colleagues. Think of what you might gain by hanging on a little longer because there is no job that is the golden egg.
If you decide to go sooner expect to be queried on the short-term post, if a prospective employer doesnt buy your account then the job would have been a poor fit for you anyway so you lose nothing. Just be sure not to come across as someone who blames everyone else in the world for problems, most employers know about their own problems and expect to hire people who will work for change and not be easily put off. The only thing to guard against is your relationship with agencies who you might find use you as a makeweight on a shortlist to make a favoured candidate look more desireable, counterpointing your experience and quals against a questionable recent employment history. They will all deny it but i know from experience and inside information that it happens.
TBC does talk some sense, but beware that a failure to disclose your full history is tantamount to lying in many companies eyes, you may get the job and then lose it. Your story will need to be very consistent and plausible and it might fry your nerves a little bit. If you have nothing to hide then it is best to go for the straight and narrow, the right employer will trust and respect your explanation.
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Posted By richiefk
You justs know. Get things in place and leave.
I was in a job for two months and it was the worst career move ever. Get out and learn from the mistake. Your are entitled to a wrong job move dont get too hung up about it.
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