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#1 Posted : 18 March 2009 23:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak It's funny how things happen, I have been looking for a role for a while now and have set up on my own trying to build a business until things pick up. Going round our small town today I bumped into a local butcher, and the owner of the local tyre place. I have dealt with these guys on a personal level using their businesses, and have talked to them about my situation giving a gentle plug about my services. Today both asked if I would be interested in doing some H&S work in return for something from them, in the case of the butcher a risk assessment on a new machine in return for a months meat, and for the tyre guy update his H&S policy in exchange for a new set of tyres fitted when I needed them. I am still working out the tangible value in ££'s of each offer but wonder if in this recession this may be the way to go for locals as it shows good will and gets the company name known. Peoples thoughts and opinions would be most welcome!
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#2 Posted : 19 March 2009 08:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gus Personally I would go for it... and not worry about the value too much It will give you a chance to create some goodwill and experience of 'consultancy' and these guys might pass your name onto others My only tip would be 'Keep it Simple' as these are small businesses Good luck
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#3 Posted : 19 March 2009 08:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By bereznikov Any local jewellery stores you could visit? - I'm sure your other half would appreciate it ;-)
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#4 Posted : 19 March 2009 09:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter I am sure the tax man will want his cut from the butcher and you had better tread carefully with the tyre fitter! Paul
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#5 Posted : 19 March 2009 09:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By A Campbell And it's not even Friday yet!!... Must pop round my morgage provider and see if they would like to barter ;0)
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#6 Posted : 19 March 2009 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft Good for credibility of the profession as caring and flexible and there to help and good for safety in your local community. Subject to still doing a professional job even if local pet shop pays you peanuts and the tax perspective even if working for the local carpet fitter (Tacks ??) then why not R
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#7 Posted : 19 March 2009 14:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Neil R Ah good old communist values eh? haha
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#8 Posted : 19 March 2009 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Petrie Just be careful how you handle this in regards to professional liability, if the butchers apprentice subsequently chops his arm off using the machine you have done the risk assessment for then you're screwed. State that you'll help them prepare it but that it will be their RA at the end of the day and that you'll accept no liability. Although saying that if you get poisoned by the meat or the tyre blows out then you may have no come back either.
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#9 Posted : 19 March 2009 16:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak Thanks for the good humoured responses who says H&S people have no sense of humour! With repesct to the liability bit as I am setting up on my own, I have PI and PL insurances. I was working out the monetary value just in case at some point I need to know the value of services provided for the tax man etc. Not sure of the tax situation for payment in kind!
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#10 Posted : 20 March 2009 08:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By kaggs You could also try the local travel agents...lots of good all inclusive deals on at the moment!! Best of luck anyway and keep plugging away...things can only get better.
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#11 Posted : 20 March 2009 13:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft Andy i have two problems, backlog of work in the office and too many duck eggs at present - can we deal ?? R
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#12 Posted : 20 March 2009 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel on radio 4 recently there was a program about bartering in the poorer countries and the fact that this £/shares recession has made them [successfully] to convert back very quickly to bartering which is upsetting the finance and shares brigade although its allowing the countries / people to get on It appears that the bartering is on a very very large and grange scale inclusive of the governments getting in on the act so perhaps we should do it more often? I wonder how we would pay our tax?
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#13 Posted : 20 March 2009 16:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Raymond Rapp I have just done some h&s work for a friend who is also owns an opticians. By coincidence I have also ordered a pair of sunglasses which cost £122. Here's hoping...
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#14 Posted : 20 March 2009 17:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By GeoffB4 Excellent idea - but the mind boggles on the types of goods that could be involved.
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#15 Posted : 20 March 2009 18:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak Hi Richard, how many duck egs, where are you and what kind of work? :-)
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#16 Posted : 20 March 2009 19:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft Sorry Andy duck egg offer withdrawn - the window cleaner needed paying R
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#17 Posted : 21 March 2009 16:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jane Bastow Personally I'd go for it. You never know where word of mouth recommendations can take you. Some of my best contracts have been the result of a casual meeting or recommendation. In 30 years I have had all sorts of strange barter offers from a supply of free range eggs to a new staircase. My two year old daughter benefited from a hand made wooden rocking horse (she's 25 now and we still have a lot of pleasure watching visiting children on the rocking horse) The riskiest barter was with a group of wood working machinery suppliers and the Russsian Wood Agency. Equipment, including dust extraction units from my business, was selected by saw mill operators in Archangel Russia but they had no hard currency. They wanted to stop selling lumber and use it themselves to create added value furniture to export. A load of lumber was consigned to all of the machinery manufacturers, shipped to Europe, and several months later we were all indeed reimbursed when the lumber was auctioned off in Rotterdam. All you have to do is keep a record, fairly value the exchange, and reflect it in your accounts.
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#18 Posted : 21 March 2009 21:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak I am taking the plunge on Monday and doing the work. Shame about the duck eggs, I like those poached on toast. Can't you offer a ladder inspection to the window cleaner instead of eggs? :-))(ha ha!)
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#19 Posted : 22 March 2009 18:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel the only people to lose out re bartering are those who put nothing into society e.g. the stocks, shares, bankers brigade and similar types think about it?
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#20 Posted : 22 March 2009 21:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak Stocks shares and bankers brigade getting nothing out of bartering...... as they got us all into this mess my heart bleeds!
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#21 Posted : 24 March 2009 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Carrick Andy, Bartering was featured on BBC TV's "Working Lunch" this week: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/...orking_lunch/7869855.stm Follow the links, they may be helpful to you. Jon
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#22 Posted : 15 April 2009 23:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By andymak Well the bartering is going well, havent paid for meat, veg, bread or fish and chips for a month now, it's making life very interesting. Still need some paid work though and that is proving very hard to get in East Anglia!
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#23 Posted : 16 April 2009 08:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F Just my look, the local sewerage works have just asked me to help them out. and next week Iv'e been asked to look at communicable diseases for the lap dancing club. I thought things were looking up!
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#24 Posted : 16 April 2009 13:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter F of course that should be luck
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