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#1 Posted : 02 August 2009 22:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By hsherwoo
I am an experienced h&s advisor wanting to obtain a fire qualification in order to be deemed fully competent to do fire RA, basic training and management bits.
The NEBOSH fire certificate seems to be the most common national qualification but there is also the IFE Part 1 and 2 which is the same length of 2 weeks tuition and I presume about the same cost. The IFE syllabus appears on paper to be more detailed.
Does anyone have any knowledge about the difference between these courses?
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#2 Posted : 03 August 2009 12:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By N Smith
I completed the IOSH fire certificate and then did the conversion course to the Fire Managers Certificate with Vulcan Fire Safety Training www.vulcanfiretraining.co.uk.

You can complete the full Fire Managers Certificate which leads to membership of the Institute of Fire Safety Managers in two weeks.

Graham is an excellent instructor, I learned a lot more on the conversion course than I did on the IOSH course.

Hope this helps

Neil
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#3 Posted : 03 August 2009 13:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By AlH
The Lancashire Fire Training College does a fantastic course

http://www.washingtonhal...ire-risk-assessment.html

Very practicle, you go our to some really challenging places to complete a Fire RA.

Just one bit of advice if you do it..... don't stay onsite!

All the best!
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#4 Posted : 03 August 2009 13:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By N Smith
Apologies - my post should read "NEBOSH Fire Certificate" and "NEBOSH course"

Neil
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#5 Posted : 03 August 2009 14:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By tonyf
I completed both the NEBOSH fire and CFPA European diploma, the latter i would strongly recommend, very good course based on written work and exams, takes about 1-2 years to complete but a very recognised qualification,
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#6 Posted : 03 August 2009 15:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mick Harlow
I did the NEBOSH fire certificate which i thought was excellent, having read the replies ref: Washington Hall, etc, i just thought i'd also make you aware of another qualification that i am aware of.

ABBE Level 3 Certificate in Fire Risk assessment.

The Certificate is aimed at those who intend to carry out fire risk assessments as ‘competent persons’ as required by the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 [RRO]. The qualification has been designed to enable candidates to demonstrate their ability to undertake this work and is suitable for both in-house assessors and independent consultants.

At level 3 candidates will be undertaking fire risk assessments on non complex low-rise/medium rise buildings with a low to medium occupancy risk. ABBE is developing a level 4 award that will target more complex buildings.
The Fire Safety Order requires that fire risk assessments will be produced by a ‘competent person’, but without defining competence in terms of either qualification or learning. The ABE Certificate in .Fire Risk Assessment [CertFRA] is a competency-based award that has been developed to provide a structured qualification that requires candidates to demonstrate that they are capable of carrying out fire risk assessments and have the under-pinning knowledge needed.

Finally i would suggest you get hold of the following: The Fire Safety Order requires that fire risk assessments will be produced by a ‘competent person’, but without defining competence in terms of either qualification or learning. The ABE Certificate in .Fire Risk Assessment [CertFRA] is a competency-based award that has been developed to provide a structured qualification that requires candidates to demonstrate that they are capable of carrying out fire risk assessments and have the under-pinning knowledge needed.

Finally i would suggest you get the following documents: PAS 97 & BS 5588, both excellent documents. I have a copy of PAS 97 if required.


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#7 Posted : 03 August 2009 22:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By hsherwoo
Thanks for your posts. I much prefer the sound of the IFE course being more practically based than NEBOSH whilst also offering breadth outside of just fire RA. Now just need to convince my new employer to invest in me!
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