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#1 Posted : 11 September 2001 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tim Corbett Can anyone tell me what qualification would be expected for a boat handler to be considered competent?. What sort of craft would be expected?. If throw lines are used what BS number should one look for? like wise the lifejacket? and where would you look for training in there use. Many thanks Tim Corbett
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#2 Posted : 11 September 2001 14:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Sweetman Tim, Unfortunately your question, and needs, are somewhat vague. To give a clearer response, more detail would be necessary; - how many men working - what work - is the water tidal or inland - what is the general state of the water etc. etc. The persons manning the boats would need to show competence, however I do not know of any CITB standard. Such competence could be shown by evidence of training in the use of a particular boat, or they could have an RYA certificate. A services background will invariably cover boat handling and/or watermanship. The necessary type of boat, and number will depend on the circumstances. If the water is tidal, there would be the need for a fast rescue craft, whereas a quiet lake could only need a suitably manned rowing boat. Lifesaving appliances, if procured through regular channels, will be suitable. However, consider the usage - a large 'Victory'type life jacket will not allow a person to work, whereas an inflatable life jacket will allow this flexibility. As regards training, unless you are looking for specialised equipment, the vast majority of LSA is designed to be used by the average idiot. If you consider the amount of 'training' given to passengers on aircraft and ships, there is obviously no requirement for complex training. So, in the first instance, carry out an assessment of the situation to identify your needs. If dealing with tidal waters, the local River or Port Authority would be a good source of information. Regards Jim
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#3 Posted : 24 September 2001 14:24:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Allen Tim, It sounds like you are looking for a fast rescue craft and crew. There are a number of organisations that provide training in this field, not mention others that will provide a boat and crew. The main training organisations are those associated with the maritime and offshore sectors. I would suggest Maritime Rescue International (01569 764065) or Humberside Offshore Training Association (HOTA) in Hull (www.hota.org)
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#4 Posted : 26 September 2001 18:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jerry Tucker Just an idea, contact your local canoeing club they should have good knowledge of still & moving water rescue techniques and suitible equipment(I'm not shore if the 'rescue equipment' for their use is to a relevent B.S.EN. standared but I'ts got me out of numerious akward situations.) Jerry Tucker (YES I'M A WHITE WATER CANOEIST)
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#5 Posted : 05 October 2001 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Juliet Fennell Tim, If working at height the construction regs still apply - 2 m fall etc. If staff are to wear a harness it may be necessary to have a lifejacket combined with the harness. Either way the lifejacket should be an inflatable one to EN 396 (150 newtons for use in inshore waters/ calm waters) or En 399 (275 newtons for off shore work).. En 394 is the standard for additional items you might require. Boat people should have an RYA level two or three but in particular they should have training in the craft they are to use. If providing a Rescue craft there is a specific course in it, HOTA or the RYA should be able to advise and provide training. If you need communications (radios) you may need a marine VHF license SRC. Jims comments about the type of water are particularly relevant and additional safety procedures would be needed in fast flowing water
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#6 Posted : 15 October 2001 16:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Phil Grace Tim, This is just a confirmation of previous responses - but was covered in the latest issue of RoSPA's Staying Alive publication and hence I was reminded of your query. The qualification to go for is the RYA Powerboat Certificate. This is offered at several levels. Level 2 qualification allows one to send off for the International Certificate of Competence - the ICC is now required if you want to use/operate a powerboat in any EC country. Possession of the ICC would also allow one to hire a powerboat e.g. on holiday..!
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