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#1 Posted : 06 November 2001 17:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian stevenson It is the opinion of myself that the delivery vans used by our staff (E.G Ford Escorts, Fiesta, Vauxalls) are work equipment. As such employees should not undertake the task of changing wheels unless they have had the appropriate training. The risks are obvious to most of us, however some people would be hard pressed to regognise the jack let alone find the jacking point. Any comments would be appreciated especialy regarding liability after an accident, jack slipping, wheelnuts not correctly tightened.
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#2 Posted : 06 November 2001 18:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rod Peel Wheel changing must be one of the most fundamental responses to a 'motoring emergency'. Most manufacturers vehicle manuals deal with the technique of wheel changing in depth, therefore it is incumbent on the 'employer' to assess competence. I wonder if competence in finding the delivery location is also assessed! Surely a risk assessment of the operation will highlight potential (and likelihood) of personal injury? Not only should the operation of wheel changing be considered but also the location (side of a busy road, motorway?). The lighting conditions (day, night) and also the risk of injury from strain induced by overtightened wheel nuts. Why not telephone the AA?
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#3 Posted : 07 November 2001 09:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor The current HSE interpretation of 'work equipment' under the PUWER Regs certainly includes vehicles used at work (with the exception of private cars). Unless you can come up with competent wheel changers from your workforce (drivers, fitters on call-out, etc) the RAC/AA/local garage,etc route seems to be the likely option).
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#4 Posted : 07 November 2001 12:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House For corporate customers, the AA offer a 'pay per use' service, which is also available through most fleet insurance policies at a [slightly] discounted rate. This would alleviate the need for training of vehicle drivers/ custodians in the art of changing a wheel, as they could call upon someone more readily trained to do this for them. Regards, Nick.
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#5 Posted : 07 November 2001 21:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian stevenson Thanks to all who replied I am on the right track now.
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#6 Posted : 11 January 2002 22:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Winstanley Hi Ian, Just a word of caution... If any of the vehicles used by your staff have tyres of a split rim type; these should be changed by a competent person only. Such tyres can seperate violently if not correctly fitted.
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#7 Posted : 11 January 2002 23:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Singleton BSc P.S. Jacks are technically covered under LOLER, if you allow your staff to use them, then they need to be checked annually by a competent person???? Or are we starting to get silly.
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#8 Posted : 13 January 2002 21:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tom W. An individuals view of that will depend whether the vehicle has fallen onto their foot or not......
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#9 Posted : 15 January 2002 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Jacks are not technically covered by LOLER they ARE covered as lifting equipment. Bob
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#10 Posted : 15 January 2002 11:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ashley Williams Me again!! The annoymous postal delivery company who i had dealings with before actually do call the breakdown company out to get them to change the tyres for them.
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#11 Posted : 17 January 2002 14:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Huber Don't forget Reasonableness. I once had to obtain an MOD Licence to allow me to drive one of their vehicles on an Arctic Expedition. Part of the process for obtaining this licence was that I had to attend a basic vehicle maintenance course. This was a couple of hours on checking water, oil, tyre pressure, etc and of course changing a wheel. A bit of an insult to a fully qualified engineer. Assess if your drivers are competent and act accordingly. Paul
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