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#1 Posted : 17 August 2002 22:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nicki I have offered H&S advice to my local village hall who are undergoing a major "re-fit". Risk Assessments on the hall have been completed without major problems except one. The hall is over twenty years old and has never had an electrical safety test performed. I checked with the LA and a 3-5 check should have been performed. The problem is that a "local" electrician has simply said "looks OK to me" and the committee have taken that as the testing. My question is, in this situation, a Village Hall, a registered charity, run by a committee, who has final responsiblity for H&S? Does anyone have any advice or experience of this type of situation. Regards Nicki
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#2 Posted : 18 August 2002 18:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Nicki The trustees of the charity are responsible for health and safety. The Charities Commission publish a range of leaflets (as pdf files) on their website if you need more information. Regards Paul Leadbetter
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#3 Posted : 19 August 2002 23:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Bristow Nicki You say that the village hall is having major works undertaken and that you have offered advice with regards to risk assessments. Have you a signed document stating that the advice you have given is for them (the committee) to ensure is correct? If the intended works are so major then who is to undertake this work? Why have they not carried out risk assessments, method statements and safe systems of work? Will CDM Regulations apply? Who will have the responsibility of checking that those undertaking the works are - a) competent b) that all safety provisions are in place c) adequate insurances are in place etc etc Lastly as Paul wrote in his response, ultimately The Board of Trustees could be held responsible in the event of an accident or incident taking place. The Board of Trustees of The Science Museum were fined for breaches of Health and Safety when Legionella Bacteria was found in an air conditioning unit on a routine Health and Safety visit. Hope this helps David B
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#4 Posted : 20 August 2002 08:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Dawson Does the village Hall committee employ anyone? You need to know this to determine extent to which HASAWA applies. Have you seen HSG192 "Charity and Voluntary Workers"? The Trusties have responsibility under H&S legislation (ie as 'employers' or 'persons who have control of non domestic premises' towards people who use the premises as a place of work or where they may use equipment or substances provided for their use there) and under civil law. Clearly the charity must the electrical installation is maintained (in line with IEE standards and BS 7671 "Requirements for electrical installations". As David said consider your own responsibilities carefully. Brian
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#5 Posted : 20 August 2002 23:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim McCulloch Suggest you look at INDG343 "Directors responsibility for health and safety." Page 4 Paragraph headed "WHO SHOULD READ THIS GUIDANCE?" defines the responsibility of the committee/board of management. HSG192 is excellent reading/info. for anyone involved in the voluntary sector. Hope this is of help to you. Jim
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#6 Posted : 21 August 2002 09:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor If no-one is employed, they are in an occupiers liability situation and would be in trouble if any visitors or hirers of the premises are electrocuted through faulty wiring. Tell them that they need to have a test certificate for the installation. If you have reason to believe that there is a serious and immediate electrical risk, the electricity suppliers could be informed and asked to disconnect! If the premises are used for licensed public entertainment the appropriate authorities should require a safe installation. The fire authority might also be interested. I suspect that the situation you describe could well be the same for many village halls, scout huts, club houses and the like and that we don't find out until an incident occurs.
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