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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
Dear Reader,
Should a company record the possibility of an employee committing suicide?
Sect 3. MSAWAW Reg 99
Nice chearful subject for a monday.
Ref Coroprate Manslaughter.
Regards.
Jonathan
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
As long as they are not named!!!
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Posted By Jonathan Sandler
What happends if another company apart for the employees own comapny is named in the suicide note?
Does an F2508 need to be completed?
Regards.
Jonathan
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Posted By Nick Higginson
Jonathon,
Personal opinion here, but I would have thought it more appropriate to carry out a risk assessment on stress, and deal with the causes of that rather than assessing the risk of an individual taking his own life.
Regards,
nick
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Posted By George Wedgwood
Clearly some may not be from a very large company with over 100k employees - average suicide rates (few actually at work) may be around 3-5 in 100,000 employees per year i.e. possibly up to 5 x 10-5 pa in risk terms, or higher in agriculture. However, instances are not as frequent as natural deaths in service! So yes, you should examine the (medium) risks and especially think about what the company should do about it both from the reporting and support issues as well as the root causes, which may include stress. Training for managers should include such a possibility and they should be able to recognise early stress symptoms or family problems etc.
You can have a stress management approach as well as some kind of employee confidential counselling service, that can spot early signs of difficulty that can possibly be dealt with sensitively and confidentially.
Regards, George
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Posted By Peter Barry
Jonathan
As you say not a wholesome topic for a Monday. I would agree that the potential for suicide could be as a result of work related stress and dealing with stress at work in general in my opinion should suffice. To specifically address the issue of the potential for suicide could lead you down the path of attempting to define the meaning of life! Unless you target each individual and allocate them a suicide risk rating (new term???)how does one quantify the risk to the organisation?
Peter
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Posted By Ken Taylor
You asked about recording. I think that if an employer has reason to believe that an employee has a health condition that may affect their work and the health and safety of themselves or others from their work it should be recorded together with the action taken. However, I don't recall 'suicidal tendency' being reportable under RIDDOR.
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Posted By Laurie
If suicidal tendencies were reportable under RIDDOR most safety officers would have to report themselves at frequent intervals!!
Laurie
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