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#1 Posted : 30 October 2002 12:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jayne Freeman As a Primary Care Trust, we deliver specialised beds to patients homes. These beds are often housed in downstairs in the living room due to the patient not being capable of accessing the stairs. I read a recent article where guidance had been sort from CORGI on the gas safety regulations in bedrooms, it was quoted that:- 30-(2) no person shall install a gas fire, other gas space heater or a gas water heater of more thatn 14kW gross heat input in a room used or intended to be used as sleeping accommodation unless the appliance is a room sealed appliance or incorporates a safety control designed to shut down the appliance before there is a build up of a dangerous quantity of the products of combustion in the room concerned. If a bed is moved into a room containing such an appliance it would consititute a change of use and as such is probably illegal. It seems that we cannot put beds into rooms with gas fires, unless our delivery drivers are CORGI registered and will assess the situation and confirm compliance with the gas regulation. My question is, has any other PCT or service come across this problem and if so, how have they addressed it. Regards, Jayne Freeman
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#2 Posted : 02 November 2002 21:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor It looks like there is a risk of this one going down without a response - so I am elevating it in the hope that a late entrant can be found. Whilst it would not be reasonable for a bed-deliverer to recognise appliance capacity or the presence of a safety cut-out device, I would have thought that a room-sealed appliance could be identified by the flue termination and air inlet in many cases. Is there no means of obtaining an opinion from a competent person prior to delivery as the CORGI registration is really required for gas appliance installation.
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#3 Posted : 04 November 2002 09:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Several other thoughts 1) Corgi is concerned with installation practice and the placing of a bed in the room would be picked up at the next safety check/maintenace of the appliance it does not therefore imply a change of use notification 2) You could, for owner occupiers, provide advice and information so that this could be researched and confirmed prior to delivery. 3) Where Social Services or Landlords are involved these enquiries will clearly need to be directed to them also. 4) 14kw is a large heat input/output and I cannot remember from my LA days what this equates to, and you cannot rely just on appliance being room sealed without maintenance evidence especially as people are prone to blocking air inlets to reduce drafts!! Bob
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