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Posted By STEVE
Hi
Can anyone help with these two questions
1. What is the standard thickness of a rope retrieval line for manually pulling out a peson in difficulties?
2. Did anyone follow-up recent offers of a SPECIALIST Group for C/Spaces, I know that there is a small group on the Expertease Web-site but it seems to be hard to get answers to questions.
I know it is not long after Christmas and people are busy, but it sems that there is always a good response on this web-site, so maybe this site could be the one for a specialist group.
Any help most welcome
Steve
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Posted By Ciaran McAleenan Steve There are many factors to consider when selecting a rescue rope diameter is one the others include; the rated strength, the material, the construction, the use (dynamic or static rope), shock absorption and stretch. Try the following site for more detail; http://www.rescue-equip.com.au/REropechoice.html - Choosing the right rope for rescues. Also there is a HSE report, into PPE for industrial rope access, that might be interesting for you to read, available at; http://www.hse.gov.uk/re...rr_pdf/2001/crr01364.pdf Regards Ciaran P.S There is a response to your earlier question on the confined spaces bulletin board.
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
Steve.
For manual rope rescue the minimum diameter you are looking for is 16mm (refer to BS 3367) ropes for fire brigades and rescue purposes.
The main criteria in essence is having a rope with sufficient diameter to be able to grip it with the hands.
One should remeber of course that for confined spaces, it is unlikely that any one person could hoist another (if injured or otherwise out of it) out of a confined space at all. In such situations a minimum of 2 persons should be positioned outside th space at all times to action this if necessary.
Wherever possible the sitiation should employ a tripod & winch system specifically for this type of retreival, or better still don't enter the space in the first place.
If I can assist with any other C/space queries do hesitate to ask
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Posted By STEVE
Hi Ciaran/Stuart
Thank you for the response to the questions, however nobody answered the question of the Specialist Group for C/Spaces.
I like many others on this web-site need your expertise and help on this subject as the Archive shows.
Therefore how about starting it on this site, after joining IOSH and been given the free offer of one of the Specialist Groups, I decided to choose the Consultancy Group this proved to be the wrong choice, no much of a response.
Iwould willingly pay the small fee for a C/S Specialist Group.
After going through the archive I fail to see that this Group would not have a good response, the subject is one that can create great interest,great discussions and be of immense use to us all who do not possess this knowledge.
I can see great potential for this Group, and its a shame for whatever the reason that Ciarans C/Space Group is not used as much as it should be, maybe people not aware of the site/group.
Anyway thank you both for the response to one of my questions
Steve
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
Steve.
I am aware of CS Specialist group that Ciaran runs in tandem with his company that specialises in some areas of confined spaces training etc, as I am sure Ciaran will advise here.
However, the reason I do not use this site now is even after trying to access it, it seems I am never able to access the site and gave up... I don't need the hassle.
I agree that a C/Spaces Specialist group within IOSH would be a good idea, although the last time I suggested this... some time ago now on this site, little response was forthcoming.
I have worked in and been around high risk confined spaces most of my working life, and know there is far more to it than most would believe, but in addition, there is little call for information as many, I'm sure, think they know it all having read the CS regs....
Anyone else care to comment?
Stuart
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