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#1 Posted : 22 January 2003 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Stone
At a recent H&S committee the question was raised on should we have a policy on limiting the amount of time our staff should drive (eg 2 hrs then take a break) and if so what should these times be?

Any help please
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#2 Posted : 23 January 2003 13:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Look at the Dept of Tranport
Drivers hours and tachograph rules for Passenger vehicles in the UK & europe(PSV375)
Part C
Can email if you wish.

Otherwise the Highway code and internal procedures!
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#3 Posted : 23 January 2003 19:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert M Edwards
The Highway code provides very little in the way of assistance and the Road Traffic Act none at all! Reasonable breaks, not driving when tired, taking food and water at regular intervals all makes sense.

A good vechicle users' policy will also include disciplinary and grievance links to not adhering to sound health and safety guidelines.

However we do find that it also makes sense to look at route planners which often make meaningless the policies in place. Transport arrangements are often made without looking at the existing policies so employees are asked to drive to meetings continously at high average speeds to make unreasonable meeting times.

The holistic approach here really works.

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#4 Posted : 24 January 2003 09:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
The UK Domestic Driving Hours regs provide some useful assistance but it is a little complicated.

HGV has the tacho. rules but other workers are included where driving is involved in the performance of work. This includes people required to travel to remote sites.

In essence they require that where the total of driving hours in any day exceed 4hours then the working day shall not be required to exceed 11 hours - Not a lot of people recognise this obscure little rule. Our general policy is to encourage a break of approx 30 min every 2hours but there is a degree of discretion. The prime trouble areas are often early starts and late finishes.

Bob
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#5 Posted : 27 January 2003 12:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House
Hi Robert

Could you let me know where I could get hold on a copy of these regs, as they could come in useful for me too.

Cheers

Nick.
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#6 Posted : 27 January 2003 12:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Youel
do not forget that it is not only the hours but the conditions. people are all hung up about the hours.
if you have worked all night the hours the next day will be effected differantly than if you slept all night
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#7 Posted : 27 January 2003 12:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Euan Turner
A company I previously worked for had a different but perhaps related approach to driving - any one way trip that was 200 miles or more required an alternative mode of transport, or when this really wasn't possible, proper itinerary planning (ie no red-eye starts to rush to an early meeting) and an overnight stay before returning. We also provided advanced driver training for all staff and self insured the first £1000 of any claim involving a company vehicle the cost of which was met by the local cost centre. These things together certainly improved our road safety performance, so I too would recommend a bit of the holistic approach!

hope this helps,


Euan
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#8 Posted : 28 January 2003 09:28:00(UTC)
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