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Posted By johnwaterson
We will be lifting trees within a lift shaft shortly upto 31 floors. I would like to know if there is any legal requirements that maybe needed. The lift will follow the tree up with a qualified lift op riding the lift. This will be stopped at each level and the tree taking in through the door. All equipment is certificated and all operators qualified. All comments appreciated, many thanx John
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Posted By Peter MacDonald
I would consider a risk assessment with regard to working in a confined space. Also a regard to an emegency response if the lift fails/stops.
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Posted By Ken Taylor
The only other thing I can think of is the need for a manual handling assessment with regard to getting the trees on and off the lift, etc (assuming that you don't exceed the SWL for the lift).
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
John
I am a bit confused here - are you saying that you are going to ride an operative up the shaft on top of the lift car when there is a very good internal carry point for people and goods? If the trees are too big to fit in then make them smaller! Perhaps I am just thick or is it Xmas madness time?
Bob
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Posted By johnwaterson
No it is not Xmas madness Bob. We are putting 7m trees into a building and by the time we start all cranage will be gone. The lift Op is riding the lift below the tree which is being winched up at 9m a min. The reason for this is he will control the lift below the tree and will be standing on the opposite side of the lift and not the same side as the tree. The life of the H & S Officer in the landscaping world is mad.
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Posted By John Webster
Still a bit confusing. Are you saying that the platform on the roof of the lift will carry the rootball of the tree whilst a winch above will hold the top of the tree upright during the ascent, or are you saying that the tree will be winched up the lift shaft suspended, whilst the lift operator, on the roof platform, follows up from below.
Either way, the operator seems to be in a highly vulnerable position should anything go wrong. It surely would be much safer if the whole opration could be controlled from the top of the shaft.
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Posted By johnwaterson
Hi John, the tree will be winched up and the lift will follow being operated by the lift op at a different speed. Once at the required floor the lift roof then becomes the working platform that way operators do not need to be harnessed on. I can see the point with the lift op being exposed if something was to go tits up. If he is in the lift then he is unable to see the tree and control the rate of ascent of the lift.
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Does this mean that the operator will be travelling on top of the lift car? This is the area of concern. If the tree is hoisted to above the destined floor level, the operator goes up in the car, the lift is then lowered to form a working platform at floor level and made safe and the tree then lowered onto it for removal it would seem a more reasonable method.
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