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#1 Posted : 26 February 2004 11:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Proudfoot
Does anyone have any information on the safe working on trailers in view of the new guidance from the HSE on 'Working at Heights Regulations'
Can the need be removed altogether? From discussions I have already had, it seems not. All views on this very welcome.
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#2 Posted : 29 February 2004 19:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Sedgwick
Ian
You are right in that need to work on the back of trailers cannot be removed; there are some tasks that have to be done by drivers and others.

Working on the back of a trailer is a very very high risk operation which does appear to get over looked and very much under estimated.

We should assess each task that is done on the back of the trailer and ensure that that task cannot be done from ground level. There will be a number of tasks that can be done from the ground, which your drivers currently climb on to the trailer for.

You could also consider the installation of "docks" these give the driver an easy access and a good safe place of work when on the back of his trailer. But we must remember that lorries are usually transporting "multi drop" loads ie in several different locations and we are not in the perfect world where every drop off or loading point at each customers premises will have a perfect dock loading facility.

There appears to be very little HSE guidance for the Road Haulage industry.

I will send you the Driver Health & Safety Induction that I introduced following a fatal accident where a driver fell off the side of his trailer.

regards
Steve





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#3 Posted : 01 March 2004 07:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alec Wood
Hi Steve

I would be grateful if you would send me that too.

Many thanks

Alec Wood
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#4 Posted : 03 March 2004 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Frith
Hi Steve,

You couldn't send me a copy of that as well could you?

Thanks

Mark
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#5 Posted : 04 March 2004 17:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Derek Rooney MIOSH MIIRSM
Jumping on the band wagon - Steve i would be greatful if you could send me a copy of your Driver induction.

Having complete a Risk Assessment for working at height to incorporate working on Commercials vehicles & Trailers this is a very risky task and like you say there is not enough information coming from the trasport industry on these.

I would be more than happy to send you a copy of the risk assessment i have done which you could change/adapt to suite your needs.

Regards

Derek
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#6 Posted : 04 March 2004 17:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Proudfoot
It does appear that there is not a great deal of info about this whole subject. I have recently started a working group with members of our company to look at this issue. I asked them to give me reasons as to why drivers would have a need to go onto the backs of trailers. We have come up with 3 reasons where we believe that it is unavoidable.
Our next stage is to therefore come up with a safe system of work for these activities. My knowledge on this subject is quite vast, it seems that when a driver does fall, they break a bone or two.
If others in the industry believe that we should commit to a forum for best practice, I am more than willing to attend and offer my experience and knowledge.
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#7 Posted : 05 March 2004 11:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By M.Thurman
STEVE,

We have a task where there is no alternative but to work work off the top of a loaded trailer to unload. The unloading takes place at various construction sites.

I would be very grateful if you could also forward me a copy of the safety induction.

Thanks,

Mick.
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#8 Posted : 05 March 2004 20:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Sedgwick
Apologies for the delay in responding to e-mails and posted requests but my pc crashed on Sunday and just got back on line without any files or programs.

I will have to reload all these from work when I get back week after next.(Can I ask Ian to forward the induction back me to then I can answer my e-mail request earlier. Ian will you send it along to those who have posted a request on the forum)
NB
I recall a request from IOSH I believe several months ago to start a Specialist group to look at road transport safety but there was very little interest at the time.

regards
Steve
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#9 Posted : 08 March 2004 11:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By S Groch
Steve,

I would also welcome sight of the papers/procedures you have assembled following your incident.

many thanks
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