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#1 Posted : 27 February 2004 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Melanie Harrison Can anyone provide a general guideline of how much a company should pay their first aid members as a token of thanks? We are currently finding it difficult to retain our First Aid team and would appreciate your advice.
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#2 Posted : 27 February 2004 16:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Dowan Hi Melanie We pay them £10.00 per month as a token. We also pay for St John liabilty insurance so first aiders are insured out of work. Regards Dave
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#3 Posted : 27 February 2004 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter We pay just over £20 ever four week period - but a big Local Authority can afford that!
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#4 Posted : 27 February 2004 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darryl Hi Our company pays £300 a year for each 1st aider at work.
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#5 Posted : 29 February 2004 17:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Roy Gladwell Melanie Our company pay £250 a year to all first aiders in 12 equal payments Regards Roy
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#6 Posted : 01 March 2004 07:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alec Wood We pay £240 annually at Christmas. We also have two co-ordinators who act as team-leaders for the first aiders sorting out their supplies etc. They are expected to attend any serious accident (never had one yet) and to back up the first aider if required. Trained to BTLS level these are paid £740 annually.
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#7 Posted : 01 March 2004 10:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Allan St.John Holt Melanie, At Royal Mail we have one of the country's largest first aid teams, and we don't pay them anything extra. We are having difficulty getting the volunteers just as others are. One of the issues around payment is that we don't pay managers any overtime or 'extras' and this would exclude paying managers who are first aiders anything. In equity, the principle is deployed 'down' from there, so that nobody gets one. I'm not sure this is right, but that's how it is. What we do do is recognise first aiders wherever we can - special reflective jackets for instance. We also have a big national competition each year and give them plugs in our staff newspaper. I know that part of the problem is that having volunteered, there is a perception that managers are unwilling to give people the necessary time off for training, so backing from local management is a real factor. Hope these comments help! Allan
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#8 Posted : 01 March 2004 14:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Adams We don't pay our first aiders and generally don't have a problem getting the numbers we need, generally it is self selling. First aiders have: - Something extra on their CV. A skill often required for after work activities, i.e. charity and youth organisations, sports clubs etc. The knowledge to immediately assist friends or family members in the event of an accident in the home, road accident etc. On the negative side, if you make a payment, no matter how small, you may attract the wrong people. First aiders should want to do it as it can be an unpleasant experience. If you don't have volunteers now and do have when you offer a cash incentive, then you should question the motivation. At the same time of course, if you can't meet your requirements voluntarily, what option do you have?
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#9 Posted : 01 March 2004 16:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Mathews Our organisation pays around £12 per month but I agree with Paul that if you have to make a payment to get volunteers, then you may not get the right kind of people. It's one thing practicing on a doll but when faced with a real casualty I've seen some "first aiders" back off, not really very helpful. Richard
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#10 Posted : 02 March 2004 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Shane Johnston We give ours £100 per year in a lump sum.
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#11 Posted : 02 March 2004 10:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter John Campbell Quill Dear Melanie I assume you have asked the first aiders leaving your team why they want to give up. The issues may not just be money. Whether or not you pay them will depend on your company culture and history. I do not agree that payment will affect their effectiveness. Whatever their motivation to 'volunteer' it will be principly the training that they receive that will determine their performance on the job. Choose a training organisation that does good casualty simulation, and then treating real casualties should be easy for them. Best regards Peter
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#12 Posted : 02 March 2004 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Adams Peter, I disagree. Whilst good training is certainly required to make an effective first aider, no amount of simulated training, no matter how effective, makes it easy. A person could be technically brilliant and faint at the sight of blood. First aiders must have personal motivation to help other people. The effectiveness comes from this motivation and if it is the wrong motivation, i.e. purely financial, the effectiveness will not be there. If you ever have to deal with a serious accident as a first aider, you will understand where I am coming from. I am still a first aider because I want to be, but believe me, no amount of training will ever make it easy.
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#13 Posted : 02 March 2004 15:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin J Morley I know of one organization which does not pay its First Aiders any extra, for similar reasons to the Royal Mail. It also has written its job specifications to include first aid as a normal duty, thereby circumventing the need for volunteers. That said the implementation was not generally taking a hard line, so there weren't any real problems. Actual First Aid raises many issues which individuals may not be properly prepared for - just like health and safety really. Martin
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#14 Posted : 02 March 2004 15:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Melanie Harrison Thanks to everyone for the prompt response which has been most hopeful. We are now considering paying our team £150 per annum.
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