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#1 Posted : 10 March 2004 15:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Andy Maguire Does anyone know if there is an equivalent scheme in other EU countries related to construction site safety. If there is, are competence cards issued in one member state recognised in another. Traety of Rome and all that they should be, but has anyone seen this level playing field lovingly known as the Federal State of Europe? Regards Andy
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#2 Posted : 10 March 2004 15:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Lynch Andy As far as I am aware the CSCS scheme is emplemented all over Europe, But definatly in the UK the CSCS cards issused to employees are acceptable and by the HSA in Ireland Both of which are EC countries not sure if thst is any help to u Regards Ian
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#3 Posted : 10 March 2004 20:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd You'd better get your skates on, before you know it every person who not only WORKS on site but whose work GOES ONTO a site or whose work IS INVOLVED in construction will need to be cscs accredited. This involves everything from toilet cleaners to delivery van drivers. A brave new world awaits. Not that it will make a jot of difference to accidents or deaths on site, the majority of which are due to the morons working on site not paying attention to safety anyway. But, it will make a load of dosh and provide good pensionable careers for those otherwise unemployable.
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#4 Posted : 11 March 2004 10:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Oliver Hi Andy, Ian is correct and that CSCS cards are recognised throughout the Euorpean Union inc Ireland, however in Ireland they have a scheme called Safepas. the construction regs in Ireland are currently undergoing review and one of the points that has been raised is to legislate in order to enforce the holding of a suitbale competence card, however the UK are a long way off doing this at the moment. i have found that a lot of people are mistaking CSCS cards as safety qualifications (they are not). the main aim of a card is to identify that you are registered with CITB using your NI number (eliminates fraud) and that you hold the nessecary qualification for the trade that you say you are. Hope this helps Paul
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#5 Posted : 11 March 2004 20:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Murgatroyd You don't have to have any quals. Read the drivel printed. Your "employer" can qualify you for the card by stating that you hold "grandfather rights" I know of several people who have cscs tickets who have only been in the industry for a few years, and whose employer lied on the application. Then just look at the "trades" available: http://www.cscs.uk.com/trades_af.asp Carry-on...... Only recently, through intensive argument, have trades such as welding, steel fabrication etc been admitted to the hallowed "portals" of the cscs scheme. Somebody seems to have forgotten that the scheme eventually intends to encompass all trades involved in construction, at all levels. Even milkmen. And since you have to take a test in construction health and safety to get the cscs card, how can anyone say it has nothing to do with safety ? No safety matters test, no pass, no cscs ticket. ""CSCS aims to register every competent construction operative within the UK not currently on a skills registration scheme. Operatives will get an individual registration card (similar to a credit card) which lasts for three or five years. The CSCS card also provides evidence that the holder has undergone health and safety awareness training or testing."" http://www.cscs.uk.com/
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