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#1 Posted : 31 March 2004 13:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Chapman I've been approached by personel to carry out a DSE assessment for a dyslexic member of staff and I was wondering if anybody here has carried one out and what problems were discovered?
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#2 Posted : 31 March 2004 13:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Abbott Not sure if this helps - I'm dyslexic and I carry out assessments for all staff. The assessments I use are a simple list of questions with a yes no answer. If I get a no in a box I'm expecting a yes in, then I look at that specific case. I have not found any assessments yet that have needed to be different because the person suffers with dyslexia - but you may need to explain the question you're asking in a little more detail, depending on the severity of the condition. My dyslexia affects my ability to spell correctly and retain information and my ability to do complicated calculations without the use of calculator etc - I'm number blind too, so I am unable to add numbers together quickly etc.. (No good at darts then!) Best, Chris
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#3 Posted : 31 March 2004 13:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott Its OK - its not catching!. Seriously though I cannot immediately detect why there should be any difference between a DSE assessment for a "normal" person and a dyslexic. I am sure our learned colleagues on this forum will correct me if I am wrong - but i would say talk to the individual, establish the degree of the paticluar problems he/she may have and make suitable adjustments as necessary.
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#4 Posted : 31 March 2004 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Abbott It's NOT catching...? Damn.. there goes my plan of infecting everyone!! >:}
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#5 Posted : 31 March 2004 13:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Chapman Thanks for the speedy response, it's much appreciated!! Also I have been looking at some pre-dictive typing software for the member of staff in question have you had any experience of using these packages, are they worth buying??
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#6 Posted : 31 March 2004 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Jones Craig, Not sure about pre-dicitive software, however, we have a young lady, not long started with us as a production operator, whose dyslexia is that she reads o.k. but is unable to put pen to paper effectively. When I asked of her about use of a PC at home along with its' spell-checker for "writing" (o.k - typing!) her answer gave me cause for thought - yes she uses spell-checker, and although she is able to read she is sometimes stumped for choice of which of the alternative suggested words which appear on-screen to use. I'd be interested to know more about pre-dictive software. Regards David
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#7 Posted : 31 March 2004 14:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Chapman David, Thats the same problem my member of staff has, she spell checks it but doesn't know which is the right spelling for the word. I think im going to try out the pre-dictive software as that seems the only solution for it really? I'll probably go with the software from this site, http://www.inclusive.co.uk/infosite/predictt.shtml if anyone has had experience of this kind of software it'd be nice for some feedback. I'll post my thoughts as well as the member of staff in question as soon as I recieve the software. Thanks for the responses!!
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#8 Posted : 31 March 2004 15:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Abbott Hi Craig, I can only comment on my own situation. Firstly, predictive software is quite good, but some of the more fundamental problems with the English language are not so easily predicted. For example - There/Their, Which/Witch, To/Too, Farther/father, your/you're etc I struggle all the time, and use MS-Word or MS-Outlook to type (even this message) and use spell checker. There is training you can do (which I've done) that helps you to recognise the variations in words, and the repetitive words that are constantly miss spelt. Adult education classes helped me to the extent that I write policy documentation now (still have to have it checked you understand, but I'm confident to try it!) Funny thing is... I'm learning French at the moment (hard because most of the time I leave the class-room and forget what I've learnt) but although I may struggle with the pronunciation, I can write the words very well, with a high accuracy! Strange how these things work out! Chris
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#9 Posted : 31 March 2004 16:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alec Wood We too have some dyslexia amongst staff, but in the main I have found that they have adapted - as people do - to the particular difficulties that they face. Some have problems picking which word to use, but that affliction is common amongst many staff. In the main they produce documentation at the very least up to the same standard as their peers, if not higher - which is probably because they concentrate more. We have tried predicitive typing software and find that it is only good for general text - legal, technical, or otherwise specialist language stumps it. A bit like the predicitive text input on mobile phones, it never wants to say what I want to say. I have not tried the product mentioned by the previous poster, if it's any good please come back on and tell us about it. Alec Wood Samsung Electronics
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#10 Posted : 31 March 2004 17:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott Both my children, now 18 & 21, have dyslexia as does my wife and as a result have had some experience of trying to get over soem of the difficulties dyslexia presents. I have to say I am not a fan of spell check, as others have indicated, too many options are given,and if you have difficulty spelling being given a large choice is not helpful! Nor either is predictive text for similar reasons. However there are things that can be done to make life easier, such as changing the background colour of the DSE screen. Very often black on white is worse for some dyslexics, pastel colours make it a lot easier for some - try it! What is very important though is the individual. Low self esteem is very often associated with some forms of dyslexia in all its variances. A sympathetic ear to the extent of the individuals difficulties is often all that may be necessary. Just how important is it anyway, that EVERY word is spelt right.
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#11 Posted : 01 April 2004 15:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craig Chapman Some of you may want to check out this website, http://www.tintavision.com/index2.htm
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#12 Posted : 01 April 2004 16:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Abbott Nice one Craig! And I agree with the previous poster - changing background colours do indeed make a difference. Also, yellow tinted glasses help when reading large documents. Chris
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#13 Posted : 02 April 2004 15:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sarah O'Brien Regarding spell-checkers - my son is dyslexic and had spell-checkers given to him by teachers at school - his reasoning - If I gave you 5 options of a chinese word would you know which one was correct? It makes you think he has pre-dictive text on his phone and more than once I've received very stange messages, worse than reading his own writing. What about spoken softwear, we got one for our home PC when he did his GCSE's you have earphones and a mouthpiece and you just speak into it and it types what your saying, then reads it back.
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#14 Posted : 02 April 2004 16:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Abbott It's true that voice activated writing software has improved dramatically over the past few years, and I think that would be a great advantage for those of us, who can't spell words - although my dyslexia is more prone to getting small easy words spelt incorrectly, and larger words spelt okay. A lot of the time I get my letter confused when typing, so I almost get there, and the spell checker helps me sort them out. One of the tings I did was put into MS-Word the words I commonly get the wrogn <--- way round and words such as Erganomike (Ergonomic) into the "auto-check" function, thus allowing the system to change these words automatically when I type them. If I'm trying to write something by hand, I tend to replace words I can't spell with words I can - but that makes it harder for me to write what I'm thinking. I hear that teachers still tell you to spell the word as it sounds.... "enuff ov that rubish alredee" :) Chris
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