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#1 Posted : 18 June 2004 09:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Stone I have had an enquiry from our head of hairdressing to ask what we should do if we a client tells us that they have a bad neck when they come into our training salon. We have a training salon and each day people come into the College to get a very cheap haircut from the students. This is very popular with the older generation. There has been a lot in the press in the past with people claiming to have suffered strokes after leaning back to have their hair washed. Anyone got any thoughts on the matter or offer us any advice to reduce the risks?? Also what would happen if the peoson does not tell us they have any problems then claim we have made them ill?? Many thanks Ian
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#2 Posted : 18 June 2004 09:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Ian Can customers lean forwards to have their hair washed? If they don't tell you of their health problems, you cannot be expected to know about them. However, your students could ask; it would make a change from the usual patter about holidays, etc. Paul
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#3 Posted : 18 June 2004 09:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert S Woods Have you ever heard of a liability claim be brought other than if the clients hair turns some unwanted vivid colour, falls out, or the hairdresser chops an ear off. All things I am sure you have adequate controls over. Seems like a sad thing to do but you could have a health questionnaire, which would probably leave the trainees with no clients to practise on. If it came to litigation evidence regarding the persons health would have to be disclosed. Bob
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#4 Posted : 18 June 2004 09:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Deborah Armstrong Ian This has been described as "Beauty Parlour Stroke Syndrome" by the Press. According to information in press articles, its thought that straining or over-straining the neck can tear a major artery, particularly in persons already suffering from high blood pressure, which might lead to a stroke. I suspect you would need to know more information about the customer, such as: Does the person have a history of high blood pressure; have they suffered a stroke before; existing neck/back problems. However, a lot of hairdressers still don't even bother to carry out dye allergy tests on customers.............. Maybe areas which could be looked at are: Supporting the neck with a towel? or- Take the pressure of the person's neck by providing reclining chairs which enables the person to lie back, with legs and feet raised, which will enable the person to retain the natural spinal curve. (This would require adequate space to be provided). Or, as you stated, in cases of persons who have existing medical problems such as high blood pressure - bending the person forward to wash their hair is another alernative (but pretty messy and wet for the person). Also, doubt this would be a good position for the hairdresser as it would require them to adopt a poor posture to carry out hair washing activities. This syndrome definitely requires further investigation by the medics. Would suggest you contact Ergonomics Specialists, such as System Concepts, to get their ideas on the situation. They may be up-to-date with developments on this Syndrome. Regards, Debbie
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#5 Posted : 18 June 2004 11:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Deborah Armstrong Ian Visit the below site - it gives further information on the syndrome and lists advice from the Hairdressing Authority who I think you should contact to get advice. www.paramedic.org.uk/Mem...ews_Item.2004-04-29.4921 Regards, Debbie
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#6 Posted : 18 June 2004 12:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson Ian, Hows it hanging mate? It may be a good idea to ensure that this info is inserted into the training curriculum for hairdressers so that they can be properly trained and made aware for the future in their own salons etc.
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#7 Posted : 18 June 2004 14:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Stone Many thanks for all the responses so far. I have passed your comments on to the staff involved as Im off on holidays for two weeks!!! Ian
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#8 Posted : 19 June 2004 23:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alistair Reid Is this not happening the wrong way, should you not be asking this question of the Head of Department as to what they are teaching the students. Awareness of this condition should be being taught to trainee hairdressers. From my very limited experience in this area I recall that the Federation was very prominent and would be offering advice on this subject to its membership.
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#9 Posted : 25 June 2004 19:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie My wife is a double stroke survivor and following advice from her care professionals she insists on having her hair washed bending forward over the basin, rather than head back when she has hair care in a local college. As the onetime HSO of that college I made sure that all staff were aware of the risks, and advised against the headback position. I also let them know that the fact that they had been given, and ignored, such advice might make them personally responsible in the event of a claim, or worse! Laurie
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