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#41 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zoe Barnett My favourite is "eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines". A thought to live by, especially when forging the accident stats for the sixth month running. A very good website for the jaded and cynical (just in case such a person ever stumbles across this website) is: www.despair.com/demotivators/indem.html
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#42 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster Bill, I had a shortened form of that one on my screen saver. It certainly amused a few people along the way. This one I can relate to, given the size of my "pending" tray "God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die." (Bill Watterson) Anyone know who Mr Watterson was? Good thread John
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#43 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Ffitch This one can be used for management presentations...I'm not saying that the others can't ...but there is a time and place for those who wish to keep their jobs. Statement by Desmond Fennel OBE QC: "A safe environment is not one in which there is an absence or a low number of serious injury incidents, but is the result of active participation by management and staff in identifying hazards and then doing something positive about them. In other words, the absence of accidents is a negative measure largely dependent on luck, while the identifcation then prompt elimination or control of hazards is a positive step and essential to the discharge of our duties under current legislation" Now, I don't know what case it was in, I don't have much proof that the dude actually said it, and it would probably sound snappier in Latin (Heather does your O'level stretch that far?), but it does appear as if for once a wig actually figured out what this job is all about. Think of that when you are next forging your accident stats! M "You're a big fish from a small puddle, but this here is the ocean and your drowning. So get back to puddlesville where you belong" Big Fish (The film/book)
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#44 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Zoe Barnett If it's the same chap he's an American cartoonist - draws "Calvin and Hobbes". I agree it's one of the best threads this year! Maybe we should introduce awards - Thread with the Most Responses; Funniest Thread; Thread which has come closest to starting a Riot" to name but a few...
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#45 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Here's one to remember when the budget cuts are due and the smell of redundancy is in the air: "Heart must be harder, courage the keener, Spirit the stronger, as our strength lessens." It's not a direct translation, but a prize (of insufferable smugness) to the first person who can identify where it's from. PS - No Google! PS: I've just realised how dour & bitter I come across as if you look at the sum of my contribution to this thread. Ho hum! Jon "The brevity and obscurity of [his] contributions are significant in their absence."
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#46 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster My "it happened to me" favourite, when I called a worksite a few years ago to check on progress. "how's it going?" "Do you want the good news or the bad news?" "Give me the good news" "We managed to put the fire out" On a different note, this circulated our offices a while ago. IF (anon) If you can start the day without caffeine or pep pills, If you can be cheerful, ignoring aches and pains, If you can resist complaining and boring people with your troubles, If you can eat the same food everyday and be grateful for it, If you can understand when loved ones are too busy to give you time, If you can overlook people taking things out on you when, through no fault of yours, something goes wrong, If you can take criticism and blame without resentment, If you can face the world without lies and deceit, If you can conquer tension without medical help, If you can relax without liquor, If you can always sleep without the aid of drugs, Then, You are probably the family dog
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#47 Posted : 13 August 2004 11:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Marc I found these on a safety web site: By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. Someone who thinks logically is a nice contrast to the real world. There are many more of these on this web site. http://siri.uvm.edu/ppt/humor/jokes.html Marc..
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#48 Posted : 13 August 2004 12:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By fats van den raad "Heart must be harder, courage the keener, Spirit the stronger, as our strength lessens." Time for me to be very smug...... From " The Battle of Maldon" Ortho.A. Many slightly different translations exist Fats "Give a man a match and you warm him for one night. Set a man on fire and you warm him for the rest of his life"
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#49 Posted : 13 August 2004 12:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Fats OK we're impressed (no really). Now be honest, did you look it up or have you just had a better education than the rest of us! It sounded familiar to me but I couldn't place it - my excuse is as a science graduate I didn't do Anglo-Saxon! Heather "Scientists tell us the universe is made up of protons, electrons, and neutrons. They forgot to mention morons" Anon
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#50 Posted : 13 August 2004 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Well done Fats, hope you enjoy that smug feeling for the rest of the day. How did you get it - people want to know?
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#51 Posted : 13 August 2004 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Kingman Others not to be missed include: "Amateurs built the ark......Professionals built the Titanic!" "Before you criticise someone walk a mile in their shoes.....that way you will be a mile away and you will have their shoes!" One from Spike "We can't stand here doin' nothing, people will think we are workmen."
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#52 Posted : 13 August 2004 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gareth Bryan How about this one, It’s difficult to soar like an Eagle when you work with Turkeys
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#53 Posted : 13 August 2004 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser Rome wasn't built in a day . . . but it only took one match to burn it down. Remember, it wasn't raining when Noah built the ark. And a favourite in latin: Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur which I am reliably told is: Anything said in latin seems profound. Had to have that one translated - nearest I ever got to latin was a chat with the classics teacher!
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#54 Posted : 13 August 2004 13:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean Fraser Another month ends . . . All targets met, All systems working, All customers satisfied, All staff eager and enthusiastic, All pigs fed and ready to fly.
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#55 Posted : 13 August 2004 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gareth Bryan Or this one- To every problem there is a solution – Neat, plausible, and wrong.
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#56 Posted : 13 August 2004 13:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman I think the tag line to BOTH versions of IF should be "Then you are an HSE consultant, you fool"
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#57 Posted : 13 August 2004 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Allen Right - the complete quote is "Semper in excretum. Sed Sole Profundum Variat" For the non-Latin scholars who don't want to work it out - "Always in the s**t. Only the depth varies" Have an incident free Friday the 13th!
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#58 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster Thanks, Zoe Should have been "is" not "was" as I see Bill Watterson is very much alive, though retired. Heather, just a thought on your original quote. "Unwilling"? Do you mean us? surely not! John
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#59 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Thomas Heather may I suggest that your original posting is completed by a further half sentence .........for nothing. Whilst I have heard many of the other statements before, one that few people will have heard of is "Nil Quackum Desperandum" (You can't crack this rubber duck) which was a response to the Admiral's inspection team during a particular heavy session at Portland in the Royal Navy frigate HMS Yarmouth best regards Dave
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#60 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston John Of course not, we all love our jobs and come to work for the fun and excitement, without any need for financial reward. I think "unsung" or "uncomplaining" would be better, but neither of them scan...... Any thoughts for a better word any of you arts' graduates? Heather "The fact that no-one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist"
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#61 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Dave Good suggestion! I had heard the rubber duck one in English but not the Latin version - like it! Appropriate for the current weather for those who have to train/work outside "if it's not raining, it's not training" (you may recognise that since yours was a Navy one....) Heather
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#62 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Patience One of my favourites: "Physicians know everything and do nothing, Surgeons know nothing and do everything, Psychiatrists know nothing and do nothing, Pathologists know everything, but a day too late!" or even: "Someone calls a plumber or electrician for an emergency house call. He listens to the problem, then takes a hammer or wrench and hits the wall, which fixes the problem. He then asks for £100. The homeowner, outraged, demands an itemized bill. The craftsman writes, "Hitting wall: £5. Knowing where to hit: £95."
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#63 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Adams Am I too late to join in? My screen saver uses a quote from Douglas Adams (sadly no relation). "A common mistake people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools"
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#64 Posted : 13 August 2004 14:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By fats van den raad It is now obvious that my superior South African educationhas...... OKOK....I'll come clean. A mate of mines lad wrote an assignment on this phrase and it's different translations etc. for his English Lit A levels about a year ago and asked me to proof read it for him. And i remebered it from there Fats "I came, I saw, I cried."
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#65 Posted : 13 August 2004 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kate Graham "Semper in excretum. Sed Sole Profundum Variat" Should be "solum", not "sole"? Kate - running away before being kicked out
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#66 Posted : 13 August 2004 17:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Ffitch Well I think I've picked enough up on this thread to justify adding 'Elementary Latin' to my CV. It obviously is an essential requirement for EHS professionals! M
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#67 Posted : 13 August 2004 18:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Thomas Heather only too happy to give you the latin version. From that time HMS Yarmouth became known (unofficially) as "the rubber duck" and our signallers made up a flag. Most of the crew had little rubber ducks with squeekers inside, but we were told to stop using them when one unknown hero "squeeked" behind an inspecting officer - who jumped out of his shoes :>) There are some further details on this to be found on www.hms-yarmouth.com best regards dave
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#68 Posted : 13 August 2004 19:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie Blessed are those who go round in circles, for they shall become big wheels Laurie (am I allowed two?)
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#69 Posted : 14 August 2004 10:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke Hi I thought i'd have a quick look at this thread, 10 mins later i'm still reading!. As my desk piles higher with work, my thoughts are "curse of the competent". It really doesn't pay to know too much!! Linda
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#70 Posted : 15 August 2004 20:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Giles Davis I'm surprised Nick Higginson hasn't contributed to this thread with a 'Simpson’s' Mantra. So I'll post one for him, which is my favourite for our profession..... from the episode where Bart swaps test papers with Martin and gets a place in the type of school that Richard Spencer (no offence Richard, just trying to DE-STRESS everyone!) probably went to......... 'Your damned if you do and your Damned if you don't', Although in Bart’s case it was his example of a paradox, which as far as I’m concerned in H&S is quite apt. Anyway…… it fits Regards Giles
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#71 Posted : 15 August 2004 20:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By martin mckeown I thought I saw a light at the end of the tunnel but it was just some B****** with a torch bringing me more work. It is sometimes better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it. And remember, you are only young once but you can be immature forever.
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#72 Posted : 15 August 2004 23:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Wilf Archer Good thread folks. Here is an actual quote made to me from the Company secretary of a Scottish College when I asked him about the gas leak. "It was not a leak, it was just the smell." I ever could work that one out. Best Wishes, Wilf
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#73 Posted : 16 August 2004 07:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Corrina Evans " You know ' I told you so ' somehow doesn't do it " Will Smith, I,Robot Or " Somethings gotta go wrong, cos it's goin' too damn good " Nickleback Corrina
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#74 Posted : 16 August 2004 08:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Jones Great reading for a Monday morning! Saw this on a site a while ago and thought it worth posting.(Author Unknown) Sandwiched tightly between Top Brass and the teaming masses sits a wild-eyed individual madly singing a safety tune. He's the most misunderstood, maligned and unsung person in all the world of business. He's the proverbial "SAFETY PROFESSIONAL". This fellow's a little bit of all strata's....a member of none. To the employee or worker he's a tool of management; to management, he's just another employee. He finds his job interesting. He speaks for management from the "Ivory Tower" and then runs out to the Production Area, Warehouse or Work Site to hear how it sounds. He must keep his head in the "brass' board room", his feet in the muck.... a difficult position to keep from falling on his butt. He has the curiosity of a cat....the tenacity of a mother in law...the determination of a taxi driver...the nervous system of a race car driver...the digestive capacity of a goat...the simplicity of a jackass...the diplomacy of a wayward husband...the hide of a rhinoceros...the speed of a rocket and the good humor of an idiot. He has the busiest, shrewdest, plottingest, worryingest, most thoroughly washed brain of any human. His mail basket is always full, his desk is a constant mess and his calendar looks like cave drawings. Nobody has been given the run-around as often, has been passed so many bucks, is left holding so many bags, and has cut his way through so much red tape. The SAFETY PROFESSIONAL keeps the coffee plantations, aspirin plants, liquor distilleries and the midnight oil companies in business. He must tread lightly over mountains of eggs, knowing where to tread and, more importantly, when and where NOT to tread. You'll find him everywhere...shouting loudly over the din of a bunch of roaring engines, whispering softly in the hallowed precincts of thick-carpeted offices. Whenever there is an accident, the SAFETY PROFESSIONAL is often called in to explain why and how it happened. He's expected pull rabbits out of nonexistent hats; when the job is thankless, he gets it. He must engender interests in good housekeeping to people who live in garage sale clutter ...promote wider responsibility to people who have a narrow focus ... preach safety to people who think they don't need it. He must listen to the phrase, 'that's always the way we've done it," until he vomits. Despite all the careful planning he is usually found dangling on a deadline...he's the original cat on the hot tin roof...in the middle of a muddle and of course LATE. The master of understatement, he must make fire protection sound as essential as religion and an accident cost sound like the national debt. He's suppose to be a "specialist" who can breath new life into committees and meetings... leadership into management... cooperation into supervisory personnel... responsibility into employees/workers. He must inspire without propaganda... propagandize without being obvious. He parks his 1980's jalopy between the boss' new Mercedes and the janitor's SUV. When he's clever, it goes unnoticed...when he stubs his toe, the world is there to see and mock it. To him a headache is normal; he'd have ulcers if he could afford them. He has more critics than Harry Truman. He meets more people who think they know more about safety than the company has conveyor hooks. He can never be right. When he simplifies, he's pandering. When he gets a little technical, he's over their head. Half the people wonder what he does... the other half know what he does but think he's doing it wrong! When an idea turns out lousy and after the blame has been thoroughly kicked between the employee/worker, foreman and supervisor, it winds up in his lap. More people bend his ear than anybody else's. Everybody thinks he always has time to stop and listen to a joke...hear a gripe...attend a meeting... serve on a committee. He does, and winds up taking most of his work home. He has no peer in the realm of praise, propaganda and procrastination. He knows he's right; only the world thinks he's wrong. If he has an idea, it was stolen. However, a stolen idea is research! Where else do you think the background material for this sad tale of woe about a Safety Professional originated? Ring any bells? David
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#75 Posted : 16 August 2004 09:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman No, no, no, no, no. You got it wrong again as ever. But what can you expect from a safety "expert" Stealing one idea is plagiarism. Stealing two ideas is research Stealing three or more ideas is fundamental research. Now be told and go and clean the catbox. It's not leaking, but there is a smell.
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#76 Posted : 16 August 2004 09:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Here's a good one from Wilf on the Stress thread. It's so good it's worth copying over to this one: "If you want to be heard, then learn to manipulate." Thanks Wilf for that pearl of wisdom.
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#77 Posted : 16 August 2004 13:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton My favourite Latin phrase, posted on my office wall for many years: "Sodomavero non sapientis". What does it mean? B******d if I know... Love this thread. Keep it going Steve ps A bird in the hand is no use when you need to blow your nose.
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#78 Posted : 16 August 2004 13:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Baynes I've always liked this: Though we are not now at that strength which in better days moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; one equal temper of heroic hearts made weak by time and fate but not in will; To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. from Ulysses by Alfred Lord Tennyson
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#79 Posted : 17 August 2004 08:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hilary Charlton This, I think has applied to all of us at some time - you can just hear your manager saying it ... "the facts,although interesting, are irrelevent" or "there is always one more imbecile that you counted on" or for all of us in general ... "the trouble with life is that you're halfway through before you realise it's a "do it yourself" thing. Hilary
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#80 Posted : 18 August 2004 10:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Corrina Evans If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried. A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking. Law of probability dispersal: Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. Ripped off from one of my most humourous pratice managers. Corrina
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