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#1 Posted : 09 September 2004 07:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor Hi everybody we are currently reviewing our fire evacuation and roll call/muster point procedures. One of our managers has suggested that all roll callers are provided with Megaphones to assist the roll call. We have 6 muster points with approx 30 people at each point and sited about 20m about. I have some concerns that the use of multiple megaphones will cause confusion but would welcome any feedback from people who do use (or have used and don't any more) megaphones any comments welcome thanks Martin
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#2 Posted : 09 September 2004 09:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick House As the roll call system appears to be having problems, have you thought of changing the procedure to an 'area clear' procedure? This would effectively eliminate the need for roll calls entirely, as each fire warden would be allocated an area to check. Once the fire warden has checked the area, and it is empty (i.e. everyone has evacuated); they then report to the site fire marshall. Likewise, if there is an injured/ disabled party in a particular area, then the fire warden would (as far as reasonably practicable) ensure that this person was in a safe place, then report to the fire marshall that there is an injured/ disabled party in 'area x'. The fire marshall would then pass this information to the emergency services, who would then make their rescue/ evacuation a priority. Just a thought..........
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#3 Posted : 09 September 2004 15:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster If you do need to conduct a roll call, I have always found it to be much simpler, and more accurate, to gather the people on one side, get them to report to the roll taker one at a time and get their name or number ticked off, then go stand on the other side of the roll taker so there is no confusion over who has and has not been accounted for. John
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#4 Posted : 09 September 2004 20:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie Having been involved in both real and simulated fire evacuations of up to 1,000 people, I must confess that I am a bit sceptical as to whether six people with megaphones are going to contribute to the smooth running of such an affair! (Don't forget your noise assesments!!) Laurie
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#5 Posted : 09 September 2004 20:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman 1. I hate megaphones. They impose information that you don't necessarily want (think of elections) 2. Do your head count as best as you can. 30 years of experience tells me that you can never rely 100% on the head count system working as it should. 3. Train your sweeps to look in every corner - especially each stall of the ladies/mens toilets. 4. Train, train, train, train. Exercises twice a year. Once with warning, once without. Missing person/ injured person scenarios, with or without the fire brigade. 5. Do your best, and try to do even better next time. For twenty years I did two evacuation exircses per year. I always found room for improvement. Bon courage Merv
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#6 Posted : 10 September 2004 08:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Martin Taylor thanks everybody for your feedback - interesting how such a 'simple' process as a roll call can be tackled with different approaches. The last response from Merv leads me to extend the thread a little. I have always been in 2 minds as to how to get the best out of trial evacuations. In fact we have so many false alarms (smoke detectors) that some time ago I chose to use all evacuations to get feedback on performance - each roll caller completes a brief questionairre after the roll call to identify any problems. I must admit though I Don't think it is very succesful. How do other people carry out 'trial evacs'? and monitor what us going on in every area of the site? regards MT
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#7 Posted : 10 September 2004 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Webster If you can, treat every false alarm as an exercise. That way, the opportunity is not wasted as there will always be something to learn. I would, however, be concerned if false alarms are a regular feature. What sets your smoke alarms off? Could you benefit from using different types in some locations...eg optical instead of ionisation, or vice verca, or heat detectors in place of either? John
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