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#1 Posted : 16 September 2004 12:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By G Gibson
Anybody got a policy on a ban of smoking at the wheel of company owned vehicles. My understanding is that this is a workplace and therefore corporate wide bans should apply.
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#2 Posted : 16 September 2004 12:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By fats van den raad
What is your reason for imposing this ban?
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#3 Posted : 16 September 2004 12:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Liam Nolan
Hi,

Here in Ireland (you possible heard this in your news) there is a work place smoking ban that is enacted by Law.
There are only very specifc places that you can smoke in the workplace (and these are listed in the legislation). Hotel rooms (just the bedrooms), Prison, and Hospitals. No-where else that is a work place as long as the place is substantially enclosed.
The big hype about this Law was that smoking in Pubs is now against the law (I smoke and this does not please me at all - despite being a Safety Officer). This however is only the sensationised front to the ban. It includes the factory floor, offices, shops etc and it also is interpreted to include company vehicles (cars, vans, trucks, plant, etc. (as interperited by the Health and Safety Authority (HSA Irish equivlent to HSE).
In fact some people say that if you are using your own car to go from site to site and are paid milage, you can't smoke in your own car as you are using it for working in!
(don't start me on the issues raised about having your office at home and possible having people come into do work (secratarial, cleaning etc).
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#4 Posted : 17 September 2004 09:12:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sam Talbot
Our company has a smoking ban in all company vehicles (including forklifts etc.)

This was imposed on the back of the company smoking policy, which restricts areas where employees are permitted to smoke.

Regards,
Sam.
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#5 Posted : 17 September 2004 11:57:00(UTC)
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Posted By Renny Thomson
Our company smoking policy specifically mentions that smoking is not premitted in council vehicles.
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#6 Posted : 17 September 2004 16:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Struan
How can any such ban be enforced any way, except probably by whistle blowers.
Do companies actually employ a smoking ban enforcement sherrif? Bet he's a busy man!!
On fork trucks, yes, but in a car on the M90? Oh do come on.
Is this really really a safety issue or just another petty attempt at trying to revive a smoking debate?
Gissa fag, I'm on me mobbie!!
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#7 Posted : 17 September 2004 18:34:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jack
And is this just whilst at work or when using the vehicle in your own time? Does it apply to staff using their own car at work? (I can see some merit if 2nd employee in car (during working time)).

Why go there?
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#8 Posted : 17 September 2004 20:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman
Workplace smoking bans are based on the probability of causing harm to the health of non smokers. Which, bugger the "research", has to be extremely low. (think about it logically - how many heavy smokers get cancer, so how many "secondary smokers" exposed at a very much lower level, are going to get cancer ?)(I say this as a pipe smoker).

Smoking while driving I would put at the same level as using a portable telephone. A no-no. It is a safety risk. Not a health concern.

Have you ever tried to light a pipe with matches while driving on the motorway at 100 mph ? Me neither (honest. I use a lighter)And I rarely go more than 80.
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#9 Posted : 17 September 2004 22:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert.J
Eating a packet of crisps whilst driving is more dangerous or Princes Street on a rare sunny day!!
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#10 Posted : 18 September 2004 23:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
No wonder you weren't happy about the 10mph site speed limit on the other posting, Merv! If the vehicle is a workplace, shouldn't the risk assesment extend to speed (not the other addictive drug) as well as smoking?
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