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#1 Posted : 21 September 2004 10:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Clay1
Can anyone give any advice on the following? The company uses side arm flail mowers on the side of the highway. Due to the slow moving of the vehicle another road vehicle almost ran into the back of the unit. We have control measures as in:
- Flashing lights on the rear.
- Flashing lights on the roof.
putting out signage is impractibale as the opeation may only be on one stretsch of road fo a few minutes before moving on.
Any ideas please.
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#2 Posted : 21 September 2004 10:29:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Is there room for the giant white arrow on blue background sign (indicating a need to pull out for overtaking) fixed to the rear - or will someone say that this should only be used for stationary obstructions to the highway?
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#3 Posted : 21 September 2004 10:33:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Ian
The placing of signage is by no means impracicable - it might cost a little more. I havbe seen this done by means of warning signs which define the distance over which mower operations are occurring. Repeater signs can also be used. This doesn't excuse those people who forget that the highway code requires that you should be driving at a speed which enables you to stop in the event of meeting an obstruction on the road!!!!! but at least there can be no argument if the signs are there.

Bob
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#4 Posted : 21 September 2004 12:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Presumably the 'flashing lights' you refer to are the "standard" roof mounted rotary beacon and vehicle hazard warning lights?
May be worth considering a retro-fit of modern high intensity beacon lights, such as used by some of the more progressive highway agencies, which can be seen over extended distances, and will warn drivers approaching from both directions of the hazard ahead.
Agree with previous posting - signs are both sensible and practicable. All these flashing lights aren't much use if they are hidden by a bend in the road!!!!
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#5 Posted : 21 September 2004 13:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By fats van den raad
Ian
I come across these on a regular basis on the little country roads I travel to and from work. The local council do make extensive use of signage as well, as in a warning triangle with the words "Verge mowing in progress".
It may be a mile or more after the sign before you actually encounter the tractor, but at least, you are expecting it. It seems signs is the way to go.
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#6 Posted : 21 September 2004 17:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert Kingston
Ian, I had a situation similar that I sought clarification from the police on and asked them what is their policy on this issue. Their stance is, drivers should take care on rural road and anticipate agriculture and slow moving vehicles. I asked about warning signs, they said they would expect warning signs (even home made, in the case of farmers) as something is better than nothing. For mud on the road their view was it is not an offence to put mud on the road, but it is an offence to leave it there. (Working on the theory that it will wash away or road traffic will get rid of it)

Perhaps you want to drop your police force a letter and get their views.
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#7 Posted : 21 September 2004 18:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP

The main source of reference is Chapter 8 of the Traffic Signs Manual and Safety at Streetworks and Roadworks (Approved Code of Practice). In these documents is sets out the legal requirements for adequate signing and guarding of the works. The type of works mentioned would fall into 'Mobile Works' pages66 and 67 in the Code of Practice deals with this. The Code of Practice can be downloaded from the Dtr website, if you can find it as they have reorganised the site so you cannot find anything. http://www.dft.gov.uk

Try this link;

http://www.dft.gov.uk/st...ge/dft_roads_508112.hcsp
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#8 Posted : 21 September 2004 18:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By RP
Just in case the link given fails see below (Leagal requirements)

Mobile Works
These include continuous mobile operations, as well as those which involve movement with periodic stops and short duration static works. They also include minor works which do not include excavations, involving the use of a single vehicle or a small number of vehicles.

Works in this category may omit the use of cones and a traffic barrier (lane closed sign) provided that safe working methods are used.

Single vehicle works must not be carried out on dual carriageways to which the national speed limit applies, unless they can be done at prevailing traffic speeds.

Using a single mobile vehicle or minor works with one or more vehicles
Carry out the work when there is good visibility and during periods of low risk. [Consult your supervisor if work is to take place in the centre of the carriageway with traffic passing on both sides.]

Basic requirements :

the vehicle must be conspicuously coloured
the vehicle must have one or more roof mounted beacons operating
a Keep Right/Left sign must be displayed for drivers approaching on the same side of the carriageway, showing which side to pass. Vehicle mounted Keep Right/Left signs must be covered when the vehicle is travelling to and from the site. Do NOT simply turn the sign to point up or down.
Additional static signs
will be required when ANY of the following conditions apply :

the works vehicle cannot be seen clearly because of hills, bends in the road, etc.
stationary traffic may tail back
there is not enough space for two-way traffic to pass the works vehicle
the vehicle is slow moving or is required to make periodic stops
In these cases place Road Works Ahead signs with appropriate plates for drivers approaching in each direction.

Where appropriate, you must also display Road Narrows signs with Single file traffic plates.

A Road Works Ahead sign should be displayed to drivers approaching on a side road if work is taking place near a junction.

Mobile works should not be carried out more than 1 mile from these signs.

If any of these basic requirements are not met, you must use full standard signing and guarding.

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#9 Posted : 22 September 2004 10:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Leavesley
Although they rely heavily on the use of warning signs, the HSE's Agricultural Information Sheet No 21 - Safe Use of Rotary Flail Hedge Cutters, provides a few ideas.
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