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#1 Posted : 18 October 2004 17:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Is anyone aware of any published or web-based guidance on the safe use and storage of starting pistols?
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#2 Posted : 20 October 2004 10:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Baynes
Asked an enthusiast friend who has come up with:
home.primus.com.au/actlaa/Health&Safety/ ACTLAA%20Safety%20Audit%20Plan%20V3.pdf
Hope it helps - about page 23 to 25 I think he said
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#3 Posted : 20 October 2004 18:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Thanks for responding, Bob.

Unfortunately the pdf file comes up as 'not found' and the main Australian site tells me that I am not authorised to access it!

At present, I have composed something based upon the lines for using and keeping licensed hand guns - but it would be nice to be able to use some specific published guidance for starting pistols. There has been consultation this year on amending the current firearms legislation and, perhaps, something will arise from that.
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#4 Posted : 21 October 2004 09:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bob Baynes
Strange, same when I've just tried it - so phoned friend who said he just typed starting pistol safety into Google on a global search and found this on second page of responses. Have tried it, and can access it. If that doesn't work afraid I'm stumped. Good luck!
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#5 Posted : 25 October 2004 23:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Thanks again, Bob.

The direct link from Google worked for me too but unfortunately the Australian document referred to a cap-pistol type of starting gun rather than the blank ammunition type. However the 'locked metal cabinet' approach was present.

I am coming to the conclusion that there is no UK web-based literature on this subject and that my composition based upon the licensed firearm approach to security will have to do until something better (or more official) materialises.

With best wishes.
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#6 Posted : 26 October 2004 10:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bill Elliott
Ken, I don't know if it is any use to you but I found this huge document when I was searching for some guidance recently. www.homeoffice.gov.uk/cr...blications/index.html#1. Open up the pdf file entitled - Firearms Law Guidance to Police.
Regards
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#7 Posted : 26 October 2004 13:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By John Donaldson
Your easiest route is to call your local police station and ask to speak to the Firearms Officer.

You will find them very helpful.
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#8 Posted : 27 October 2004 10:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Thanks, Bill. That was exactly what I needed. Until now I had only seen reference to the guidance to police and not the actual text. Whilst the legislation only requires secure storage so as to prevent, so far as is reasonably practicable, access by unauthorised persons and the adequacy of this is a matter for the police to decide where a firearms certificate is obtained, I now see in Appendix 7 of the document the specification for such storage which individual police forces are recommended to adopt. Some starting pistols are classed as firearms (for which there is an exemption for persons in control of athletic races) whilst others are not. However, non-firearm starting pistols that resemble firearms could be used to commit an offence carrying a possible punishment of 10 years imprisonment - and inadequate storage or control by the owner could well be a contributory factor to theft for this purpose.

I do take and agree with your point too, John. My interest in seeing published guidance and holding an agreed written risk assessment is based upon a concern that a one-off statement by an individual that an arrangement is OK, even if correct at the time, may not subsequently provide sufficient evidence for our defence if something goes wrong some time later - particularly in view of the different types of starting pistol and the potential for an assumption that what is good enough for one type will also be so for another.

With many thanks to all respondents.
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