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Posted By Patrick Teyhan
Colleagues, I have been roped in by the local Youth Club to do a Firework Display for this Bonfire Night 5 November.
Whilst I have made a start on the risk assessments of the Venue, and will be following the Firework manufacturers instruction and conforming to the Firework Code.
I am hoping that someone with experience of a similar activity involving pyrotechnics and spectators are prepared to pass on their experience.
I would be most grateful if you could let me have a copy of any previous assessments for contrast and comparison, failing that any suggestion that would enable the event to pass off without incident would be most appreciated.
Kind regards
Patrick Teyhan
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Posted By Marcus Pereira
I've done some work on Firework displays and tried to e-mail it to you but it bounced back - mail me or post an e-mail address and I'll try again.
Marcus
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Posted By steve e ashton
Patrick
If you are currently employed in health and safety, does your employer know that you are undertaking work outside paid activity?
There was comment some time ago on this thread of a Company sued by a charity who had employed a 'consultant' (somebody doing a 'homer'). I seem to recall the argument was that the Charity was relying on the skills and education of the 'consultant' on the basis that they were employed by a reputable company to act in that capacity...
When it went belly-up, the 'consultant' had no PI cover, so the charity (successfully) sued the guy's employer - who did not know he was doing homers....
If you are employed, and don't have personal PI cover, I suggest that you speak to your employer (and their insurer) to confirm the possible ramifications of doing 'charity homers'.
Be careful out there....
Steve
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Posted By steve e ashton
17th July 2003, posted by Peter Gotch
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Posted By David A Jones
Steve, just read the previous thread you mention and surely there has to be more to the case than is mentioned.
The only reason I could possibly see for the employer being considered to have any liability in the circumstance described would be if the 'consultant' was working as though he was providing the advice on behalf of his employers (e.g. he used his job title and employers company name and possibly paperwork when providing the service). Even if that was the case, I suspect the employer would have a counter claim against this 'consultant' under breach of contract or some sought of fraud in purpiorting to provide the advice on behalf of the employer.
As I say, there must be a lot more to this than meets the eye - otherwise 'employers' would be being sued all over the place I'm sure.
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Posted By Zoe Barnett
I'm sure you are following all the HSE guidance and anything required by your local fire brigade. The only thing I would add is from horrifying personal experience - make sure you have good crowd control barriers. One of our local schools, thank Heaven, chose to spend £60 on those metal barriers rather than the rope they had used in previous years. A rogue firework, set off by a professional fireworks technician, went off horizontally, shot across the safety zone and bounced (can't spell ricco-thingy) off the barriers, back into the safety zone where it exploded. A little girl who had been leaning on the barrier suffered an injured hand, but had the firework not hit the barrier it would have gone off in the middle of the crown and I am certain we would have had fatalities had that been the case. I still have cold sweats every time I think about it.
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Posted By Patrick Teyhan
Steve, I am currently employed as a civil servant and not undertaking a professional health and safety role, though not for the lack of trying.
For information
My employer "The Crown" indemnifies itself i.e. it does not take out insurance for such.
I have risk assessed the venue and have found the large car park to be most suitable for my needs.
I am still waiting for another youth leader to provide me with a copy of Public Liability insurance and when all that is out of the way, I am looking to do this as a project to show to a prospective employer.
I am very grateful for your posting with regard to my request for information, but I don't think it apply's in this case.
regards
Patrick Teyhan
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