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#1 Posted : 28 October 2004 12:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By s.micklewright Hi All, I thought that would grab your attention! Presbyopic is a term relating to sight where the sufferer requires special spectacles in order to operate DSE. We have a doctor’s letter from a member of staff who suffers this illness, as an employer we have to contribute towards the cost of such spectacles. The staff member wears everyday spectacles but will also require theses special ones. What percentage of contribution should/must an employer pay towards these? Don’t get me wrong we are more than happy to pay the full amount, but the letter from the doctor states legislation requires a contribution. Could anyone tell me what this contribution is (as a percentage perhaps) or provide me with more info. Thank you so much Simon
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#2 Posted : 28 October 2004 12:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter We will all suffer from presbyopia - it's what happens to your eyes as you get older so I wouldn't class it as an illness. The DSE Regs merely say that employers are obliged to provide glasses (well, special corrective appliances, actually) where they are specified for a 'user' as defined in the Regs; there is no mention of cost or proportion of costs. The minimum will be for a pair of single vision lenses in what used to be called NHS frames; if the user wants something better, they should pay the difference. Paul
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#3 Posted : 28 October 2004 12:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze My understanding of the ACOP & Guidance is that you pay the full cost of providing a basic set of frames and lenses. See Regulation 5 & paragraph 61 of the guidance document (available from HSE books). As to how much that is likely to cost, only the optician can tell you.
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#4 Posted : 28 October 2004 12:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adam Jackson As Paul says, get a price for a basic pair and then if the individual wants 'better' ones they pay the difference.
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#5 Posted : 28 October 2004 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By steve e ashton Is the Doctor also an ophthalmologist or optometrist? Age deterioration commonly affects 'close range' vision and is also known as short-arm syndrome. The vision deterioration affects the need for spectacles for reading and writing as well as for DSE use. I would be a little cautious about accepting a GP diagnosis.... It may be that the individual needs special glasses for the focal range of DSE use, but many spectacle wearers can use their 'normal' specs quite properly. A GP won't necessarily be able to disctinguish between someone who's eyesight needs correcting for all 'near' focal length activity and someone who needs different 'corrective appliances' for specific focal length activity (DSE use). If someone needs specs for everyday activity like reading / writing / watching telly etc, and those 'normal' specs are also suitable for DSE use, then it is my understanding the employer will not 'have' to pay for them under the regs. (although some do....). Steve
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#6 Posted : 28 October 2004 13:36:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston Simon I would not accept a doctor's letter unless they are specifically qualified in opthalmology as well. In my company we would send this person to an optician for their opinion (we have a special "deal" on eyetests with a local chain) We would then pay for the cost of the cheapest available frames and lenses (currently about £50) if the optician said glasses were required specifically for DSE work. If the employee wants something different, they get that sum (the £50 or so) towards the cost of something more expensive. "presbyopia" BTW is something we all get as we get older and the lens of our eye becomes less able to focus close-up. It's not the case that this autmatically leads to special DSE glasses - this is a matter for assessment by a properly qualified opthalmic optician. Heather
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#7 Posted : 28 October 2004 13:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Good point that Steve which I'd overlooked. Paragraph 50 of the guidance specifically refers to registered opthalmic optician or a medical practitioner with "suitable qualifications". I would suspect (but don't know for sure) that this would not include GP's. So there you go - as clear as mud!
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#8 Posted : 28 October 2004 14:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By s.micklewright Optitian, genuine, all paid for now, no probs, what would we do without ACOPS?! thanks all Simon
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#9 Posted : 28 October 2004 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor If you are dealing with a recognised DSE user, Vision Express do a voucher scheme at £15 for the test and £49 for the special glasses.
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#10 Posted : 28 October 2004 14:47:00(UTC)
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Posted By Heather Aston I pay less than £15 for my company tests.... Seriously though it's a good point - if you have quite a few users, talk to your local opticians and see if you can work out a deal with them. It's worked very well for us. Heather
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