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#1 Posted : 10 November 2004 16:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Liam Mc Conalogue Hi All, I have tried and tried to get all of the brick/block layers to wear gloves whilst carrying out their work activities i.e. whilst using mortar but unfortunately my words are not being heeded by all. I have incorporated the associated risk assessments and photographs of the effects of using cement without gloves during tool-box-talks and we even introduced a reward scheme for those who wore gloves. I have been told by some operatives (mainly those who are in construction for the last twenty/thirty years)that they would not be able to carry out their work activities with gloves on. Anyone out there in the construction field who have encountered similar problems and have had positive results? Liam
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#2 Posted : 10 November 2004 17:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Delwynne Yes, frequently (in answer to your 'has anybody else' question). I also regularly have to convince people who have been working without gloves for the last fourty years that they should wear them for the year or two before they retire. Although it can become time consuming I have found that taking the time to understand why individuals don't like the gloves and attempting to find solutions for individuals works best. Having approached two or three you're likely to find that they all say the same thing and one solution will suit most of them. Have you tried asking your PPE supplier to bring in a selection of appropriate gloves and allowing them to choose? If they choose them they can't complain about them!
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#3 Posted : 10 November 2004 19:39:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie I hesitate to sound like markSmark, but persistent failure to comply with H&S requirements is a recognized ground for dismissal. Many forum readers will have come across the "No Hard Hat - No Job" rule; should not the same apply, with reason and discretion perhaps, to all PPE? Laurie
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#4 Posted : 10 November 2004 20:02:00(UTC)
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Posted By Tyler During my time as a bricklayer (a good few years ago now!!) I always used to wear (and many of my colleagues also wore) washing up gloves (marigolds). These allow the malleability and the flexibility req'd to lay bricks and are water proof (thus acting as a barries to the mortar and cement). A couple of warnings. The gloves need to be removed at regular intervals (tea breaks) to allow the hands to breathe and not develop dermatitis And, don't wear Pink ones as you get a lot of stick!! One draw back is that they are prone to damage fairly easily but anything more durable restricts the flexibility required and as such brickies will not wear them. In short, by years of trial and error most of my bricky pals and I wore Marigolds! Worth a try me thinks?? Tyler
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#5 Posted : 11 November 2004 16:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Danny Swygart I also used to be a brickie and have seen marigolds in use however most don't wear any hand protection (I certainly didn't). However these days the quality and range of gloves has moved on by a huge amount and you should definately be able to find some samples for your brickies to try that will provide adequate protection yet still allow the dexterity required. Follow Delwynnes advice and get your local PPE supplier to visit with some samples for the guys to try and select themselves. PS. I used to experience more discomfort from the abrasion of handling bricks and blocks than any reaction to contact with mortar.
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#6 Posted : 11 November 2004 16:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Liam, You can now purchase black toughhend Marigolds for this sort of thing from most reputable PPE suppliers. They're a bit more durable & colour ceases to be an issue. I would endorse what has been said about glove hygiene and dermatitis isses though.
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#7 Posted : 11 November 2004 17:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By john r sharp If you can't get then to wear gloves, why not investigate barrier creams, correct hand washing and an after work cream. The last construction company I worked for supplied these within the welfare facilities. Worth a try!! John
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#8 Posted : 11 November 2004 17:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Pete Moran Many construction operatives are reluctant to wear gloves as frequently they are supplied with the cheapest, most uncomfortable kind that can be sourced with no thought as to how they will perform. I have recently come across some very good gloves manufactured by Showa....they are very grippy, close fitting and available with a breathable or impervious back....brilliant!....now comes the part where you have to convince other people to spend £6 a pair instead of 65p!! As will all glove wearing , it is always essential to wash the hands prior to drinking,eating or smoking.
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#9 Posted : 11 November 2004 17:58:00(UTC)
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Posted By Richard Altoft lot of good sense, let those at risk choose the product to use, problem is often with self employed as replacements cost a lot over a life time. Talk to some old "hands" and see what they really think, not what they say in a peer group also provide decent welfare incl hot water, decent drying methods incl choice between hot air and paper towels, hand creams for start of work and end of shift. In reality many of the brickies have put up with such poor conditions for so long they have difficult beliving it when someone does value them - shame but true. Could also try union webpage for UCATT that has a safety section. R
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#10 Posted : 12 November 2004 14:27:00(UTC)
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Posted By Liam Mc Conalogue Cheers everyone- there have been a lot of suggestions put through. The one I have got the guys to go with is bringing on-site a PPE supplier who then lets the operatives see whats on offer regarding hand protection. Many Thanks, Liam
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