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Posted By Tony Birchall
With the issue of vandalism, and the un-necessary time associated with emergency evacuations, but more importantly in-convenience to the fire service, I am trying to source an approved system for fire call points. Currently a locking (key) system exists but this has to be controlled by fire marshals which is not ideal.
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Posted By Keith32
So you are saying you have to wait for somebody with a key, to turn up before you can set your fire alarm off??
You must remind me not to visit your building.
As troublesome as vandalism is, getiing out of the building, for a false alarm or not, is the priority. I'm sure the fire service wouldn't mind 100 call outs to false alarms rather than being called to people who are still in a building because the key to the fire alarm can'r be found....
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Posted By Alan Haynes
Many moons ago, when project managing fire precautions at 'sub-surface' railway stations, [following the Kings Cross Fire]. we agreed with the LFCDA that at Wembley Central Station we could fit 'flip-up' plastic covers to the fire alarm call points to reduce 'unwanted operation' of the points. However we were not allowed to fit the covers in Birmingham New Street station [different Fire Authority], and on Merseyrail we were asked not to fit any call points in public areas! So I suggest you talk to your local Fire Prevention Officer and get his/her advice on the matter
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Posted By Laurie
CCTV works well!
Laurie
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Posted By Clare Hazlewood
Safetyshop do a flip-up cover for break glass call points which can include an alarm which sounds when the cover is removed.
However, I can imagine problems arising if, during a genuine emergency, the person using the call point were to mistake the anti-vandalism alarm for the fire alarm and then fail to activate the fire alarm.
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Posted By Tony Birchall
Keith, it clearly is not my organisation but one which I was involved with earlier in the week. The fact that I posted the thread at least acknowledges that I don't agree with the idea one bit!
But as one of our more wise members suggests, there does appear a regional differential of opinion with some fire services.
CCTV is actually in use too.
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Posted By Rod Douglass
Tony,
I used to work for a Private Prison Company as their Fire Health & Safety Manager (Yes they only had the one) and as you will be well aware you cannot have break glass in Prisons as the inmates would have a field day, so they have "key turns" all Staff are issued with a key to activated the call point in case of a fire. It may expensive but cheaper than CCTV and it is very affective.
Aye,
rod
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Posted By Tony Birchall
Thanks Rod, what's suitable for some is often not suitable for another but I'll try putting that forward.
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