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Posted By Zoe Barnett
Further to the arrows question...
Does the running man have to be running in any particular direction? Can he be shown facing left if the arrow is pointing right?
Personally I don't care, because I think people will follow the arrow and not the man(and anyway, some of the arrows will be pointing straight up, so where is he supposed to be running to then?) but I have a rather bolshy sign shop here to deal with who seem to be coming up with any and every query to get out of making the bl**dy things. (Fats, bless you, I passed on the details of the firm you recommended but to no avail.)
Thank the gods it's Friday...
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Posted By Heather Aston
Zoe
On the ones I've seen the man is running the same way the arrow points. Where the arrow is straight up or down the man is running left to right.
(Typical man always running in different directions)
Heather
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Posted By Merv Newman
zoe,
logic says that he runs (walks briskly)the way the arrow is pointing. If arrow is straight up or down then he runs towards the arrow.
Actually I don't think you have to have the man and why can't it be a woman ?
I thought it was thursday.
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Posted By Zoe Barnett
Not needing the man, but wanting one going where I want him, is the story of my life.
Merv, when you said you thought it was Thursday I actually checked the calendar in panic!
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
Zoe.
Generally the 'running man' is running from right to left towards the exit.
I do not recall seeing a sign contrary to this. The arrow of course will alter depending on the direction of travel to the exit, beit left right, up or down etc.
The safety signs and signals regulations and relevant british standards for fire safety signs all concur with the above, so far as i can recall. In particular, if the BS shows the signs as they are (man running right to left), i believe they should follow this pattern and NOT be left to right.
Regards...
Stuart
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Posted By Stuart Nagle
Zoe.
I was wrong. I have just looked at the BS specifications and they show the running man can be in either direction.
I will email you direct...
Stuart
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Posted By Ken Taylor
The man should be running towards the fridge, Zoe.
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Posted By Gilly Margrave
I always thought the sign meant "man in a hurry to get to the toilet" unless you've got the posh one with the flames in which case it means "man who had curry for lunch".
Gilly
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Posted By P Williams
what makes you think all it is a male?
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
According to my Stocksigns catalogue, the left-facing person indicates that the exit is to the left whereas the right-facing person indicates that the exit is to the right or straight on.
Paul
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Posted By Nigel Singleton BSc
Try buying them from Staples you get a choice of left or right and they are conveniently marked left exit and right exit on the display as well. If your sign company is being bolshy remind them you are the CUSTOMER!
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Posted By Laurie
I seem to remember that there is a fire or building standard somewhere which says that the figure should be running in the direction of the exit, except that where there is no change of direction, e.g. up, down or straight on, the figure should be moving to the right.
Can't be more specific about the source though
Laurie
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Posted By Neil Pearson
If the Running Man heads in the right direction he could end up Governator of California. Sorry, I'll get my coat...
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Posted By Steven Mills
If the arrow is pointing up or down (usually on a sign above a door) it means there are stairs on the other side of the door going up or down depending on the arrow.
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Posted By Richard L
Zoe,
I have sent you the signs direct.
Richard L
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Posted By Brian Edward Harkin
Well you should care! Because I am running off to the pub and if you new what direction I was running in I would have bought you a pint.
Advice on the use of fire safety signs can be obtained from your enforcing authority for fire safety (eg the local fire authority)and must at comply with BS 5499:Part 1:1990
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Posted By Mark Jacobs
Sorry to join the party late. We have just received a visit from the local fire officer inspecting part of our building.
An architect has specified signs for an area that comply with the British Standard located above exit doors. We were criticised by the fire officer as in his opinion a sign above an exit door with a down pointing arrow implies that on passing through the door you would go downward.
The only alternative is an arrow pointing up which in my opinion is not much clearer.
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
According to BS 5499, the sign above a final exit door shouldn't have an arrow.
Paul
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Now we are talking arrows, let me try to clear up some evident confusion. If you have to travel straight on through a doorway, the arrow on the sign above should point upward. Most of those seen for this purpose are pointing down incorrectly - but don't worry as we all understand it better that way. Personally, I preferred the old red letters on white background and have not yet met anyone who does not understand the words 'FIRE EXIT'. Oh, and by the way, please don't run during fire drills.
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Posted By Merv Newman
Ken,
my word you are lucky. You don't have anyone who's original and perhaps only language is gujharati, punjabi, swahili, xhosa, cantonese, or even spanish, serbe or croat
I once worked for a site that had 1 000 employees with 15 different national origins. (including one english speaker and one american)
I have also worked on sites where Xhosa was spoken by workers, French by management/supervision, arabic by about 40% of employees and everyone had their own dialect - not all with a written alphabet.
Symbols are are so much more PC
So long as we can all agree which way around the b****y little androgynous person is supposed to be facing.
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Posted By Ken Taylor
I agree with you, of course, Merv with regard to the use of pictograms to explain safety messages to the non English language readers. It's just that the old words-only fire exit signs didn't seem to present any comprehension problems to those that I came across. The words 'FIRE' and EXIT' seemed to be quite common (with minor spelling variations) throughout countries using our alphabet and the fact that the sign was there above doors in bold red letters no doubt emphasised the intended message for those who were not. Please be assured that all our fire exit signs have the running man/woman-in-trousers these days but as to whether the 'forward arrows' are all pointing up, that's another story. You may even get internally-illuminated exit signs from the suppliers with the arrows pointing down instead of up.
Our no smoking signs are also pictograms but I do notice that a number of places still use only the 'word version' of this message. This is of concern as, if they can't understand the health warning on the packet, they may also not be able to comprehend the signs. This doesn't refer to pipe smokers, of course.
With best wishes.
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