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#1 Posted : 16 February 2005 12:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darryl Jones
Could anybody help or have contacts (midlands) in the removal of collared Doves we have two birds one nest in one of our warehouses.
I understand these birds are protected so the pest control are out of the question.
any advise would be great.

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#2 Posted : 16 February 2005 12:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
All birds with few exceptions are protected under the Countryside & Rights of way Act, which takes over duties originally expressed in the Protection of Birds Act of (I think) 1967; so yes, Rentokil is right out. Wait 'til they've gone and stop 'em coming back in, be aware that the protection extends to their eggs and nests and forbids wilful disturbance of a nest site, as well as the actual slaughter of the bird.

The exceptions are game birds, some wildfowl and a small number of scheduled 'pest' species, which to the dismay of the green wellie brigade doesn't include birds that eat pheasants,

John
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#3 Posted : 16 February 2005 13:03:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
I didn't think collared doves were a protected species within their own right (like say Golden Eagles).

They are after all a very common species, though John is right about about the general protection afforded by law.

A simple solution would be to install a model owl in a prominent area of the roofspace(available from many garden centres). This will deter any potential prey from moving in to the area.
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#4 Posted : 16 February 2005 13:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
Darryl

According to the Durham County Council website,
Some birds (common 'pest' species) could be taken and nests destroyed at any time by authorised persons, ie owners or tenants of the land or persons with the landowner's permission. This was formerly a permanent part of the legislation. but this part was deleted in 1993 and is now the subject of an annually reviewed general licence. In theory, the list of bird species included on this general licence could vary from year to year. It includes the following species found in Durham: collared dove, crow, jackdaw, jay, magpie, feral pigeon, rook, house sparrow, starling and wood pigeon.

Paul
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#5 Posted : 16 February 2005 13:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter
On Jonathan's point, model predators soon lose their effectiveness; I have even seen pigeons perching on a model owl on a roof ridge. Playing recorded predator calls may be more effective as a deterrent.

Paul
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#6 Posted : 16 February 2005 13:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darryl Jones
I think a model of my managers wife face may be more effective that would never lose its scare appeal.
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#7 Posted : 16 February 2005 13:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight
All birds are protected in their own right, some species such as Golden Eagles get more publicity and stricter penalties apply; however, Paul is right about collared doves being in the schedule of pest species, I forgot that they were moved from the general schedule to the pest schedule in the 1990s. In this case, you may be able to remove them; however, the 'pest' status does refer to their status as an agricultural pest and I'm not sure how this affects them in other environments,

John
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#8 Posted : 16 February 2005 13:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Philip Roberts
Darryl,
I use Rentokill to remove feral pigeons from our premises by shooting. I think collard doves are considered a pest species the same as feral pigeons so could be removed by the same method. Suggest you contact you local Rentokill or similar pest control company. You could also contact your local authority pest control to conform collard doves are considered a pest species.

hope this is of assistance

regards
Phil
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#9 Posted : 16 February 2005 14:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By Darryl Jones
Thanks for all help, i have been imformed as long as the nest has no eggs or young it can be removed, this encourge the birds to nest else where but we must not harm the birds in any way.

Thanks again

Darryl
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#10 Posted : 16 February 2005 15:06:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Knowles
The DEFRA web site will provide all the information that you require. I had to use it some time ago. They produce a number of technical leaflets. I seem to remember that TAN 13 deals with birds in a industrial setting

Gerry Knowles
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#11 Posted : 16 February 2005 15:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gordon Thelwell
http://www.nixalite.com/bcp.htm

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#12 Posted : 17 February 2005 13:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alison Entwistle
http://www.picas.org.uk/

The above organisation offer assistance with regard to cruelty free bird control.


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#13 Posted : 18 February 2005 22:07:00(UTC)
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Posted By Barry Cooper
Darryl
Contact "picas" we had the same problem with ferrel pigeons and they have evidence that shooting doesn't work. Numbers increase.
One method is to install dove cotes and remove the eggs, this then controls the numbers.
The model owl doesn't work, we tried it and the pigeons just messed on it.

Barry
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