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#1 Posted : 23 February 2005 09:45:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Stone
We have a large bench saw that is designed for cutting bricks that is used on our training building site here at the College.

It was noticed on a recent inspection that this machine had no guards to cover the 12 " round blade. I contacted the manufacturer rep in england and recieved this:

"These machines have their own category, not to be confused with wood saws, so the guarding requirements are for Masonry saws only. More details of the complete standard can be found on the HSE web site, or we
can arrange a photocopy to be sent to you."

It goes on to say that as its for masonry it will not need a guard!
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#2 Posted : 23 February 2005 16:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stephen J W Clegg.
Ian, I think for starters you need to re-visit HSW sec2 & PUWER in relation to guarding dangerous parts of machinery.

I am a believer in learning something new every day and wait to be corrected, but I think having a bench mounted circular saw with an unguarded 12” blade is just waiting for a “Foreseeable” incident.

By definition, your trainees will be inexperienced in using this type of machinery and therefore are more vulnerable to injury due to their lack of perception/appreciation of danger, not to mention all the other nasty things created i.e. dust/noise/heat/vibration etc… you need to be sure about the MHSWR in relation to ‘young people’ – if this category of persons uses this machine - how old are they?

I would have your Fist Aiders ready, together with your explanation!

Regards

Steve.
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#3 Posted : 23 February 2005 19:14:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurie
Forget your first aiders - I would have your Art & Design students standing by, with plenty of needles and thread!

Laurie
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#4 Posted : 24 February 2005 13:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By colin
I worked in the tool hire trade and on building sites untill fairly recent

Hand held disc cutters such as "stihl" saws,and bench mounted brick saws such as "clipper" do have guards.
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#5 Posted : 24 February 2005 13:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Bryan Weatherill
If you refer to the HSE Publication - Safety in the use of abrasive wheels - an appendix of PUWER - you will find reference to the fact that this type of 'chop saw' only has to be guarded 180 degrees
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