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#1 Posted : 25 March 2005 08:37:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alex Ashcroft Hi can anyone out there help me with a tender document we have just received that states the Construction will be in line with the CONDAM Regulations, Having trawled the Net I think this is related to the CDM regulations, but the HSE site does not show it? Thanks Alex
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#2 Posted : 25 March 2005 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Smurfer I think you're right there with cdm - otherwise known as the condom regs... ;-)
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#3 Posted : 25 March 2005 10:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Cooze CONDAM: This term was used for a significant period and does relate to the CDM Regulations. The Use of the term was dropped for obvious reasons. However I have heard the term used by persons not working in the industry and fellow lecturers, who are not working in the field.
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#4 Posted : 25 March 2005 12:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter Yes was quite a popular term (and still is with some people). Originally coined I think as a term to express whether or not a Project attracted the various requirements of CDM Regs,i.e. was the project 'CONDAMABLE'. Use of this term by your prospective contractor in his tender response should raise doubts about his general awareness/ competency?
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#5 Posted : 28 March 2005 12:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett You don't give any detail about the context of the Tender; but I would be inclined to simply request clarification of any terminology that you may not be able to relate to. Failure to respond effectively should raise cause for concern! I also consider that you should pay much greater attention to the substance of the document - if the contractor uses terms like "CONDAM", what other indications are there that their internal H&S competence may not be as good as they want it to look? Frank Hallett
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#6 Posted : 28 March 2005 13:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Black Alex They are undoubtedly looking for evidence of how you conform with CDM. I would go back to the company and ask for specific guidance on this. Tender documents can fall be either quasi, semi or fully legal documents depending on the nature and term of the contract, as such any legislation should be fully and properly cited or referrenced. i am asked to deal with one of these questionnaires every week and am constantly amazed at how the financial issues are almost invariably tightly bound but the health and safety issues are very often treated haphazardly. I take the viewpoint that these documents are only ever seriously scrutinised in the event that something goes badly wrong, for that reason it is important to be meticulous and get a piece of paper to cover every possible query or grey area. Don't forget that under CDM there is a possibility of being queried on how you or your company discharge your duties for as long as you live and any evidence of confusion or slackness will be siezed upon by lawyers and inspectors alike. Previous postings suggesting that there is a lack of competence or awareness where people use this particular acronym and i would tend to agree. i used to work for a regional water company with 4 districts, each district had at least 4 divisions and out of all of those only one group refused to let go of the term CONDAM and continued to alter corporate documents to include their preferred title. Not only did this highlight the supercilious arrogance of that particular section (and their leadership) but it was treated as an outward sign that a group of managers who spent millions every year on CDM related projects had still not updated their knowledge 7 years after the introduction of the regs. I would carefully watch anyone who used such outdated terms.
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