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#1 Posted : 14 April 2005 10:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nigel Hammond I was called the 'Health & Safety Manager' but I got it changed to 'H&S Adviser' because I give advice. Directors and managers are responsible for implementing or ignoring that advice! Some friends say I should have stuck with 'Manager' because, indirectly I do manage by auditing, drafting policy etc and it also sounded sort of more important! What do you prefer to be called; H&S Manager, Officer, Coordinator, Adviser, Advisor, or may be something else!?
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#2 Posted : 14 April 2005 10:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charlotte Snow Hi Nigel personally I prefer Manager rather than Advisor. An Advisor ,advises,which leaves management and indeed staff more room to ignore .To "advise" is not the same as "managing". If a Manager says do "x", then generally the perception is , IT MUST BE DONE. If an Advisor says I advise you to do "x" , then I feel the perception is, I HAVE A CHOICE , IF IT MUST BE DONE. Just my perception, on the subject. best wishes Charlotte
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#3 Posted : 14 April 2005 10:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven Nigel I have been an adviser, advisor, manager, officer, representative and (informally) the "safety-guy" and "our safety guru" - and have been ignored in equal measure!!! This one has been discussed on several occasions before and you might get further comments by doing a search of previous discusion threads. At the end of the day, what you are called is fairly irrelevant - its what's in your job description and how influential you can make yourself and the role that counts. Mike
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#4 Posted : 14 April 2005 13:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mark Eden I don't realy care what I am called as long as it is not derogatory. I always strongly advise any one who is going to be rude to carry out a risk assessment first. there are many hazards to calling the safety practioner rude names - a P45 being the worst a slap around the ear the least
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#5 Posted : 14 April 2005 13:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By TBC Agree with Mike - I'm currently an Advisor, but have been an Officer, Co-ordinator and Manager. What's the difference? I think legally if your the manager, you will carry the can if something goes terribly wrong. As an advisor you give that to the best of your abilities and try to ensure it happens. Always know the limit of your abilities though and if in doubt seek help. In any position though - I'm afraid you must always cover your ass and document everything in some way. Keep copies of all correspondence that you may rely on in any subsequent hearings. As long as the pays OK what's in a title?
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#6 Posted : 14 April 2005 14:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Val Watson The title 'H&S Manager' implies the postholder has management control and responsibility for implementation of health and safety arrangements. The title 'Adviser' is more accurate if the role is, fundamentally, to provide 'competent H&S advice' to an organisation - and this may well including advising on management arrangements.
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#7 Posted : 14 April 2005 23:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham If its XXXXed up it makes no difference what you are called, any inspector will soon work out who is in control and who is providing advice, inspections, auditing etc. I would go with the title with the biggest car, the most holidays and the largest salary!
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