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#1 Posted : 14 April 2005 14:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald
Hi

As a demolition company we recently undertook an asbestos cladding removal contract that involved recladding the building and some other small works (column replacement, mipolam flooring, painting etc.) I need to produce a post construction H&S file for the contract now it is complete. Having not built anything for few years can anyone provide me with a list of contents required for the document. I'm thinking as-builts, method statements for all work, residual risks, clearance certs for asby work, disposal paperwork, maintainance procedures for installations....... What else?

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Peter

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#2 Posted : 14 April 2005 15:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Alan T
Peter

I would suggest you get hold of a copy of the CDM regs ACOP HSG224 and read appendix 4 the contents of the health and safety file. If you are still in doubt ask the planning supervisor for advice or the advice of your appointed competent person that assists you with health and safety law and information, as required by the Management regs.
If I may add without being to controversial your posting did send a shudder down my spine that such a basic thing as the contents of the H&S file is not known to company working with asbestos, I would have a think about getting myself on a CDM or refresher training course if I were you.

A
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#3 Posted : 14 April 2005 15:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Were you licensed to do this under the CAAW regs 2002 and if you are a demolition company shouldnt a H&S File etc be produced for all demolition work post 1994 (CDM) or havent you bothered? H&S File is the contents of the H&S Plan and the as builts etc.
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#4 Posted : 14 April 2005 15:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Danny O'Donnell
Peter,

I'd tend to agree with Alan T on this one. Check Appendix 4 of the ACOP as your first port of call and ask the Planning Supervisor what he expects from you by way of information. (Assuming that you actually have one to consult with???).

A lot of the information contained in the Pre-Tender and Construction Phase Plans will be of no relevance to the Health and Safety File.

Danny

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#5 Posted : 14 April 2005 15:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Peter MacDonald
Ooh, sorry for asking!

Gentlemen, park up the high horses!!

We are a licensed contractor dealing with asbestos and a very good one at that.

I was specifically asking about the health and safety file with regard to the construction element of the works. Typically, demolition does not involve the construction of something (there's a clue in the word demolition there!). In this case there was cladding, flooring, small works etc and I wanted a quick check as to how to present these elements.

A health and safety file was on site for the duration and there was full cooperation with the HSE on some tricky elements to the removal and clearances.

Guess I'll just dig out the ACOP. Thanks for nothing.

Peter





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#6 Posted : 14 April 2005 16:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sam Rawcliffe
Peter


Can you clarify your role in the whole scheme of things. Were you the Principal Contractor or a Contractor/sub-contractor.

The CDM regulations apply to all demolition and dismantling work, hence your information should include for all elements of the work.

However, the sort of things you have stated are a good start, not far off the ACOP.

I would include a description of the work done, Suppliers details, product specs. etc.

In regards to the asbestos removal, it might be wise to include a list of personnel who carried out this work.

Hope this is of more help.



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#7 Posted : 15 April 2005 13:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter
Peter,

Looks like you have all the real issues covered. Any additional designer criteria (not already on the as built drawings) also should be included, e.g. design loadings, identification of pre-stressed members, any specific dismantling & demolition requirements (I'm thinking of the columns you mention?)
A previous posting is incorrect - the pre-tender/construction phase plan does not belong in the H & s File.
Your project Planning Supervisor should (by law) be in a position to advise, in fact I'd be surprised if he/she isn't approaching you to discuss this.
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#8 Posted : 15 April 2005 20:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis
Just really to ask what good the method statements are? If there is nothing unusual in what you did then these are not required.

I would be looking in the file for evidence of the clearance tests and certification of precise asbestos locations if any have been left. I suppose a copy of the type 3 report and confirmation that all recommendations were followed will provide the needed information.

Bob
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#9 Posted : 19 April 2005 16:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Michael Battman
The H&S File should provide information needed during future construction, maintenance, demolition work, etc. It should include details of residual hazards ~ surely the main hazard is no longer present following asbestos removal.
Consequently for asbestos removal, there is little that should need to be included. As previously stated, tests confirming building is clear of asbestos, details of any remaining asbestos.
Beyond that, unless something unusual was uncovered during the works, maybe a previously unmarked electric cable; badly corroded steelwork, I see little useful info that could be contained.
It certainly should not be clogged up with method statements, risk assessments, etc, there place is in the H&S File!
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