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Posted By Andrew Davies
I would welcome any opinions on th subject title.
Whilst the ACOPS provides guidance on the type and size of labeling required for boards in good condition, if you have a room with 20 smaller boards, do you label them all ?
Andrew
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Posted By robert daily
i am sure you do andrew. Although i would'nt recommend labeling as i once heard a story about a school with AIB's in a corridoor. And to save cost's they opted to label all the boards. With in an hour of labels going on all, the boards had been broken!. I am not saying that this would happen in your case,but people are curious when labels are stuck on AIB. I would recommend sealing or removal.
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Posted By steven bentham
I would support the last person and in addition, mark on plan, photograph and leave results with the custodian or building manager.
They should keep an eye that they don't become damaged and stop any contractors who will be going to work on them.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Have you undertaken a 'Priority Risk Assessment' in conjunction with the Material Assessment (which should be done for you by the surveyor) to understand the risk of exposure to ACM involved in this area, if it shows that it is 'high'risk of disturbance then I would remove it, therefore problem gone, as you will have to manage this on an ongoing basis its not a one time shot.
If it is in an area where there is very little chance of disturbance and it is in good condition or people will be likely to work on it then I would suggest that this was not practicable, If you have good asbestos management system in place then this should be taken care off.
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Posted By Paul Oliver
Andrew,
There is no legal requirement to label Asbestos within buildings, the legal requirement is in the duty to manage. Therefore as long as you have an ACM register detailing the location and condition of ACM's within your building your on your way to having a suitbale management plan, you then need to review and revise as neccesary and make this info availalbe to all relevant personnel ie. tradesmen, maintenace engineers etc (paper or electronic, whichever is the most accessible).
Don't rest upon your laurels as there is still a lot of work to do once you've identified ACM's within your building, as subsequent responses to this post will probably expand upon.
thanks
Paul
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Labelling can sometimes be counter-productive by leading people to assume that all items not labelled do not contain asbestos - even when the labels are removed, fall off or are painted over. Robust management using the asbestos register may well be a better option. An assessment of the risk and an agreed policy on this would be beneficial.
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Posted By Linda Crossland-Clarke
Hi
As part of our Management plan, we issued each of our offices with a certificate stating that the office has been surveyed. Asbestos or suspected ACM was found in... Then had it displayed with various other policies on the walls. This way, it was always there for staff to be aware of so they could pass on the info to contractors etc. But it didn't look like a scare mongering excersise..
Any good?
Linda
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Posted By Stephen R Robinson
Some good ideas, but I would also add the following:
If you can, put a label on the door to that room stating that the room contains Asbestos. Also add that no maintenance work should be carried out in that room without first consulting the relevant department/person.
If you couple this with having any contractor and new occupants signing a register stating that they have read and understood the Asbestos Register.
One question though. Are all the boards separate from each other? Or do they form a partition wall? If so, you do not need to label every single board. Just enough so that it is clear what is asbestos and what is not. If all the panels are separate, label all of them. The price of a few labels is pretty cheap compared to an accident.
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Posted By Smurfer
If you put a label on the door to a room stating that the room contains asbestos I doubt you'd get many people wanting to enter it!! I suspect many people might be scared sh*tless. Excuse my french.
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Posted By Ken Taylor
Je vous excuse, Smurfer, parce que vous êtes correct.
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Posted By Dave Wilson
Think you are batting on a very sticky wicket here Andy, it would appear that you have shed loads of AIB which people can come into contact with.
Have you had a survey done - what was the out come and the surveyors recommendations? for each ACM found!!!
Have you done a 'Prority Risk Assessment' for each ACM found - legal obligation under Reg 4 - see HSE Acop & Guidance and MDHS 100. What was the outcome?
have you produced an asbestos register and management action plan to control access to ACM?
Do you have reporting mechanisms and emergency procedures if some one damages it
Have your staff been trained and informed, eg dont stick pins in it, how you going to stop maintenance people disturbing it especially chippies, sparkies and IT & painters
Look on HSE www for good case studies
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