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#1 Posted : 23 April 2005 08:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Colan Ash As an infant school governor i have been asked to help the nominated teacher risk assess a proposed farm visit. We will be visiting the site to make it site specifc but i was hoping somone out there may have already assessed a farm visit and be willing to share their assesssment or the significant findings with me.
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#2 Posted : 23 April 2005 09:08:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter Colan Try typing 'farm visit' in to the HSE search engine at www.hse.gov.uk; there's plenty of information on there to get you started. Paul
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#3 Posted : 23 April 2005 11:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By James Bridgland Colan I have a "Planning, Risk Assessment and Management" checklist issued as LEA guidance to schools in the South East which a farmer client of mine uses for school visits to his farm. It might be useful to look at alongside anything else you have found. I've only got a hard copy but I can send it to you if you let me have an address. James
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#4 Posted : 24 April 2005 17:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By David J Bristow Hi Colan Good personal hygiene with the children is a must when they undertake the farm visit - if they are to be touching and cuddling the animals then E-COLI could be a threat. So any risk assessment should include hand washing after they have finished the tour or when and if they use the toilet whilst at the farm. Please forgive me if you already know about the above and have catered for it as a potential hazard area. Kind regards David B
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#5 Posted : 25 April 2005 00:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Antony ('Tom') thomas I think that as well as e-coli, there is a significant risk of leptospirosis, particularly from dairy farm animals. The urine and faeces has been known to carry this virus, and recent research showed that 1:4 farmers were infected (compared to about 9 reported cases UK wide). Although the hygiene aspects already outlined are essential, everyone should really steer clear of areas where there is a lot of liquid matter, e.g. where water sprays are used to clean out barns. It might be worth considering some simple PPE for kids, i.e. goggles and gloves ...though this may seem draconian, it will prevent bacteria entering mucus membranes (eyes) & wounds. Kids are always full of cuts & grazes, so these should be covered in waterproof material.
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#6 Posted : 25 April 2005 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert S Woods Goggles and gloves is a bit over the top isn't it? What about childrens areas in zoos they don't go to these extremes. Is someone going to show the kids how to safely get the gloves off without getting contaminated? Keep the kids safe by all means but please don't provide fodder for the Clarksons of this world. The essentials are wellies a coat, info on why they shouldn't put their fingers in their mouths when they've been to see the animals and good hand washing facilities. The biggest danger from living in a rural environment is your mum and dad being brother and sister. I know I live in the Yorkshire Dales where men are men and sheep are nervous.
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#7 Posted : 25 April 2005 16:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nicky I have to agree with the ppe being over the top! Wellies and good handwashing is enough. As the mum of someone who has had e-coli, I think I can give an informed view. Here is the info' http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/ais23.pdf Avoiding ill health on open farms, advice to farmers (includes teachers suppliment)
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#8 Posted : 25 April 2005 17:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gerry Knowles Thank goodness for people like Robert Woods. I agree with him wellies and coats to keep the weather off and good hand washing facilities. It is little wonder that we get into conversations like death by toilet rolls.
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#9 Posted : 25 April 2005 17:13:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze Colan, You don't say whether it is an arable farm or a dairy farm. While there are many overlapping issues, each would have unique hazards. Also, are we talking a 'working' farm or a childrens petting farm here? Because again you would expect radically different levels of control for each scenario. I personally would be unhappy taking kids around a working farm scenario if they are not seperated from the work going on. As well as the hygiene issue which has been well covered, you may need to consider: Is fencing secure; contact with vehicles and machinery; falls from height; slurry pits; chemicals and contact with aggressive animals etc. My list is not exhaustive.
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#10 Posted : 25 April 2005 22:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jack And don't forget pregnant visiters and lambing sheep.
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