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#1 Posted : 09 June 2005 16:22:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Tupper Has anyone dealt with this subject. The idea is that instead of one IT programmer working at a desk with a computer, two work at the same machine. In some systems there is an automatic system that tells the current "driver" that their time is up, and they must hand controls over to their partner. The theory is that although the prgramming isn't done any faster, it is of higher quality, less errors and that sort of thing. There is also the argument that people get more "free time", and they get a lot more interaction. The problems seem to be along the lines of: 2 people working in the space for 1, not necessarily having the DSE set-up being correct for both people, frustration of the "non-driver" when they can see another way of doing something. There's a lot of user info on the web, but virtually no H&S thoughts. Steve Tupper
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#2 Posted : 10 June 2005 12:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan It's not exactly clear what you are asking. However, the scope of the DSE Regs does very explicitly include stress (as well as musculo-skeletal and optical hazards). So, your 'story' does appear to illustrate that the configuration you describe may well be causing avoidable levels of stress which may in time cause avoidable injury. A competent risk assessment should set this out clearly with reference ot the 2004 update of the DSE Regs.
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#3 Posted : 10 June 2005 12:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Tupper This idea of 2 at a desk is a reasonable big thing in the States (by the look of various links via google), but I don't currently know if it is being used in Europe. That is to say I didn't until this week when I find that someone has introduced "Pair Programming" into one of my company's offices in the UK. I was hoping that someone else had already had experience of the subject - always nice to follow a lead! Now it looks like I'm going to be the one who has to start off the "It might be OK in the States, but not here in Europe" discussion with IT management. I am visiting the office to observe the set-up later today.
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#4 Posted : 10 June 2005 12:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ron Hunter If they buy an extra hand controller, then they'll both be able to play at the same time? (I'm sorry Steve, I couldn't resist it!). I would resist the introduction of such systems of work. The claims of improved quality seem spurious at best and could increase stress/lower job satisfaction by being 'kicked out' by a machine halfway thru' something. Compliance with DSE would be next to impossible (taking time to adjust workstation). It sounds very much like the machine would be dictating the work 'pace'. It is otherwise surely within the realms of technology to have interactive systems (programming or otherwise) networked across a number of workstations at reasonable cost?
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#5 Posted : 10 June 2005 12:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Steve ... in the context you outline, perhaps it is worth detailing not only the differences in details of the DSE and corresponding legislation in the USA but also in the social history of ergonomic interventions in health and safety practices between the USA and EU countries. If the issue is economic, then valid measurement of performance is much, much bigger than stuffing two to a desk. Not an easy one.
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#6 Posted : 12 June 2005 23:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Steve Tupper I've been told that this sort of system is used at several UK companies including EGG and Dixons. I presume nobody has been asked to evaluate this for H&S, it's just a manager who discovers this variety of what they refer to as "extreme programming" or XP (no relation to Microsoft). Looks like I'll be investigating and drawing up some in-house recommendations. Would stiil like to hear from anyone who's already met "pair programming" or any variety of it.
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