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Posted By James Perry
Dear All
We are due to install a new silo on site shortly and will be having 2 cranes on site for a day to lift it in. This instance falls totally outside my "competance".
Obviously I will complete risk assessment and issue permits for the work etc, but as for controls, I'm stuck at restricting access to the area and letting them get on with it.
Could anyone offer some advice and/or suggest controls I should be putting in place. Even the most obvious suggestions and derision would be welcome.
Regards
Jim
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Posted By Philip McAleenan
Jim,
In this case the contractor bringing the cranes on-site and installing the silo is the competent person re. carrying out the risk assessment. Provide him with the necessary information, including access to the site prior to the installation, to enable him to do this. If the installation is being carried out jointly, ensure that the engineers from your site work with him in the development of the risk assessment and controls.
Regards, Philip
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Posted By steven bentham
Ask for confirmation of:
(a) name of appointed & competent person planning and supervising lift;
(b) ask for details of lifting plan; ask what they need of you around area.
Meet appointed person on site and ask him to talk you through the lift - you might learn and enjoy it!
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Posted By Bill Fisher
James
Firstly as a professional you have recognised your limitations. However you then fall down when you say "Obviously I will complete risk assessment and issue permits for the work etc, ...". But how can you? You are not competent!
The only safe way to approach this job is to contract the crane company or other competent individual for this portion of the work.
Remember if you produce the risk assessment etc and something goes wrong the PtW will not protect you or your company - as I am sure you know the PtW is only a "tool" to assist.
Regards
Bill
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Posted By Derran Willliams
Jim,
Bill is right im afraid, if you don’t feel you have the competence and the necessary training in house (slinger & signaller) to deal with this yourself, a contract lift is needed in this instance. You mentioned you had two cranes on site, are you planning a tandem lift??
If you haven’t already arranged a contract lift you can add an extra zero on the end of the quote that you have at the moment.
Derran
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Posted By Ian Laber
James
As this is your site, you will be expected to provide information on relevant hazards. Overhead cables are fairly obvious but underground chambers, basements, services etc, all need consideration.
Ian
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Posted By Paul Oliver
James,
If you want, you can fax me a copy of the Crane hire companies method statement and I will have a mooch at it for you.
You should be asking for this well in advance of the lifting operation.
As you are not an "appointed person" you will have to go for a contract lift. This is where the crane hire company supplies all manpower and materials required for the task in hand.
Any reputable company will fully explain the pros and cons of lifting operations of this nature. if you are to hire cranes quite often in the future yo may want to look at "appointed persons" training for yourself.
Regards
Paul
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