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#1 Posted : 23 June 2005 14:54:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Is it me - Have I missed something out there?I've just seen a person who is MIOSH MIIRSM MRoSPA Fascinating I think particularly the latter Bob
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#2 Posted : 23 June 2005 17:32:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert S Woods Its ok until you get caught out. I still think the best one was the chap who had something like MIOSH RSP MIIRSM MaPS Eng Dip MBE DSO then finished it off with: Registered with Local Council for the Control of Legionella. Sir Bob Woods KBE VC DSM MTRSC MBFC Registered with local vet for treatment of tapeworms.
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#3 Posted : 23 June 2005 19:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK Seen a guy who gave manual handling training to my wifes workplace with the letters "IOSH" after his name. These people make mega bucks out of unsuspecting customers by putting spurious letters after their name.
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#4 Posted : 23 June 2005 22:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett So ITK, is it the conman who is entirely at fault for the client failing to make a very simple check? Don't get me wrong on this; the wrongful use of titles and designatory letters is absolutely infuriating to the myself and the rest of the legitimate safety [and other] professionals. But as long as their clients don't even bother to check; and in fact consider that the NEBOSH or CIEH Certificates, or even the IOSH Managing Safely Certificate [yes, really!], are sufficiently professional qualification to call someone competent as a Safety Adviser or Safety Consultant [don't all shout at once - read what IOSH & NEBOSH & CIEH say about these Certificates first] and allow themselves to be charged sometimes ludicrous amounts for the services provided; it simply isn't going to change. I once worked with a charming person [management consultant - the rogues are in every business] who successfully navigated through life on the basis that "There's one born every minute & You can only con someone who wants to be conned". He said loads of ather relevant stuff too but I think that it's now someone elses turn to have a [polite] rant. Goodnight all. Frank Hallett [really annoyed and looking for dragons to slay]
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#5 Posted : 24 June 2005 08:28:00(UTC)
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Posted By ITK Frank, I agree with what you are saying to a certain extent but not everyone is au fait with NEBOSH IOSH MIOSH MIIRSM, they probably get the "I know a friend of a friend who does Health and Safety, he has letters after his name" they pay the fees and feel happy they got a competent service. As the saying goes a fool and his money are easily parted, (is that why I'm always skint).
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#6 Posted : 24 June 2005 09:16:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jim Walker Isn't there plans afoot for IOSH to "educate" the ignorant (or innocent) on this very subject?
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#7 Posted : 24 June 2005 09:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Brian Hagyard Rob. None of these appear to be qualifications to me, only membership of certain professional bodies. Try the RoSPA web sit, membership is open to anyone, as I am not a member myself I don’t know if Member of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents carries any approved designation but if you are a member what’s wrong with saying so? Brian
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#8 Posted : 24 June 2005 10:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Arran Linton - Smith Brian, You are right in that anyone can be an individual member of RoSPA, however RoSPA also make the following clear with their on-line application: “Use of RoSPA logos and identity by members RoSPA membership does not give members the right to use or reproduce the RoSPA logo or any likeness of it. They are also not permitted to use their membership to promote or endorse any product or service. Members are entitled to quote “Member of RoSPA” on their letter headed paper only”. I also have not seen any reference whatsoever, to the designation of MRoSPA on their website, therefore (I believe) this designation should clearly not be used.
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#9 Posted : 24 June 2005 13:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kirsty Bryson Putting MRoSPA into a google search brings up a link to an HSC public consultation relating to the Construction Regs where someone is using the above as one of the groups of post nominal letters after his name.
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#10 Posted : 24 June 2005 14:35:00(UTC)
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Posted By Keith P Barker MIOSH, MIIRSM, RSP, CSP, Tec SP, MIEMA, BEng, Dip2, NVQL4, HND, HNC, OBE , MBE, CBE, CPCS, CITB, MENSA, GCSE L1, "0" Level1. Gold Swimming Award, BAGA4. This seems to be the new fashion, are there any more unofficial post-nominal letters we could think of to use. You never know, it might impress someone. Do you have to have any quallification to become a member of ROSPA?? (NO - see website) Membership only allows a member to state that they are a 'Member of RoSPA' on their letter headed paper. (Maslow and his theory on esteem comes to mind)
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#11 Posted : 24 June 2005 15:25:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob T talking about companies checking or knowing what designatory letters mean - I have, in the past, had letters offering me interviews for specific safety jobs with to "Mr Fiosh" and previously "Mr Miosh". These were people trying to recruit full time safety advisors!! The letters after your name only really mean anything to laypersons if they are spelt out. Rob
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#12 Posted : 24 June 2005 15:51:00(UTC)
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Posted By Chris Black I have always permitted myself a childish giggle when spotting members of the institute of civil engineering referring to themselves as MICE.
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#13 Posted : 24 June 2005 17:50:00(UTC)
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Posted By Hazel Harvey Jim, IOSH are inviting recruitment consultants to The Grange during August to educate them about the qualification, skills and experience required for competent practice and the new 'Chartered' member structure. Now we have high level approval we are going to use it constructively to educate the public about who they should listen to when seeking advice on health and safety. This will be the first of many initiatives!
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#14 Posted : 27 June 2005 08:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Keith What about my GSWA (Gold Survival in Water Award), TC (Turtle certificatefor more than 10 capsizes in a day), ASL (Advanced Skippers (Dinghy) Licence) I could go on. Bob
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#15 Posted : 27 June 2005 09:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Leadbetter There's a brownie point for anyone who can remember CDM and Bar? Paul
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