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Posted By Mrs Christine Burrows
I gained my IOSH Qualification 2 years ago whilst still working as a Civil Servant in the RAF but have yet to use it! the reason I believe is because I am a woman and not many women have this qualification, so where do I go now? what kind of job could I get to be able to use my skills that I have gained as I understand this certificate to be worth its weight in gold (or so I thought). I would welcome any advice please.
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Posted By Heather Aston
Christine
You're joking right? "Not many women have this qualification" - uh, wrong.
It's not clear from your post which IOSH qualification you are talking about. Do you really mean the IOSH Managing safely course or do you mean the NEBOSH National Certificate.
Either way I think you'll find there's plenty of us girls out there who have the same. Honestly these days being a girl isn't a big deal in safety - not even in my industry where we're still in the minority.
Heather
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Posted By Mrs Christine Burrows
Heather I wish I was joking but I am not and there does not seem to be much call for it either, I have the IOSH Managing Safely and not the NEBOSH one as it was decided that I should not go any further and a change of post would be the best all round for me at that time by my superiors who placed me elsewhere in an Admin Post whereby this qualification is just sitting in my frame and not being used! so now what is what I ask? thanks anyway for your reply.
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Posted By Julie Watson
Christine
Heather is right there are plenty of use girls out here!!! I'm in a male dominated industry and have been for seven years. Only once have I had a problem with not been taken seriously and he was soon put right!!! Once people realise your looking after them they soon listen. Admitingly it can be hard trying to explain to a 6' 4" built like a brick sh**house angry man why he needs to do things in a certain way and not how he wants to (well it is when your 5' 2") but i just remember how many lives I have saved and how my "boys" know I'm not just saying things for the sake of it!!!!
Maybe your in the wrong job....maybe your employer doesn't take you seriously enough, I hope you carry on with your studies it is worth it.
Julie
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
Christine,
Without wishing to venture into the gender issues you have raised (because as a bloke, I'm not really qualified to!), can I suggest that you may have been oversold the Managing Safely course.
If you are applying for roles in a general management position then yes it is of benefit to you, if all other things are equal between you and the other candidate.
But if you are looking for roles as a dedicated safety professional, then most employers would probably be looking for a bit more.
Take a look at the IOSH membership structure at this link:
http://www.iosh.co.uk/in...=corecompetent.structure
The Managing Safely course will enable you to apply for membership at Affiliate level.
Alternatively, Check this with the professional development and membership information sections of the site.
I hope this info helps you and I trust Heather & Julie have been able to dispel your fears.
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Posted By Heather Aston
Christine
Jon's advice on reading further about IOSH qualifications is spot on. The IOSH qualification you mention is a good start but it won't necessarily get you a job in safety.
And Julie - I know the feeling - I'm 5' 0" - but it's what you do with it that counts (no not bossy at all - what are you thinking?)
Heather
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Posted By Jonathan Breeze
Julie,
It can be hard trying to explain to a 6' 4" built like a brick sh**house angry man why he needs to do things in a certain way and not how he wants to if you're a bloke too!
In fact I would argue that in such a situation, the less testosterone present, the better.
But that's a side issue to the question asked...
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Posted By Ethne D'Arcy
Hello everyone
I would just like to point out that the IOSH Managings Safely course is an awareness course and not a qualification.
Ethne
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Posted By Heather Aston
I think that was really our point...
However it does result in the award of a certificate and it's clear that some employers who might be trying to achieve competency on the cheap or who really don't understand that H&S is a profession instead of something the facilities manager does in their spare time seem to think it's sufficient.
After all - health and safety - it's all just common sense innit?
No offence meant to the original poster, who will by now be looking at the NEBOSH national cert if she is serious about making a career in H&S (Good luck BTW)
Heather
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Posted By Mrs Christine Burrows
Thanks to everyone who has given me advice on the Managing Safely Certificate and its value towards future Jobs. I have decided to go for the NEBOSH Certificate as this seems the way forward for me and I actually enjoyed the Course that I done in the first place.
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Posted By Heather Aston
Christine
Good luck - please don't be put off posting here by the current row that we're having about competence - it's a sensitive subject with we H&S folk as you will find.
You will find the NEBOSH cert easier if you can start to get involved in some H&S issues as well, as it will all start to make more sense if you are applying it practically.
Suggestions - get involved with your H&S committee, get involved in risk assessments (I'm sure whoever does risk assessment in your area would be glad of some help), get involved in workplace inspections and audits, see if you can get involved in some accident investigations.
Let us know how it goes.
Heather
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Posted By Mrs Christine Burrows
Heather I will let you know how I get on with the NEBOSH Certificate and yes I will get more involved with audits and accident investigations as this can only improve my experience because up until now I have just been sitting here for the past 2 years not doing nothing at all, which is a real shame.
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Posted By Julie Watson
Christine
Good luck with the NEBOSH if you need any help, advice or support you know where we are!!!
Julie
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Posted By Carol Younger
I read with interest the threads for Heather's email. I came into H&S late in life after attending the 4 day managing safely course (so that I could at least have an inkling as to whether the information from our consultants was valid) I chose the NVQ4 route over NEBOSH as I wanted to stay in my chosen business field where I have achieved a sound knowledge base. I am now a H&S Professional and managed to get a good job 5 months before my 60th birthday. NVQ4 was very much the practical way to go as I also gained valuable experience and the company benefited from my learning in the process. Good Luck Heather
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Posted By Heather Aston
Thanks for the thought - but I think you mean Christine. I've already got all my bits of paper!
Heather
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Posted By Mrs Christine Burrows
Thanks Carol I am as far as I am concerned late in life in this too as I am now 49 but having said that if you can do it then I can too, I shall now go and look at the NVQ4 Route also and see if this is something that I could possibly do. My problem is that I work for the RAF and unless the course is applicable to your job position then you cannot do the course so I shall have to go and do it privately instead. Interesting reading though about yourself and it gives me inspiration too!
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Posted By Stephen J W Clegg.
Christine if you are coming to the end of your term, it might be an idea to attend the General Certificate as part of the re-training package the RAF offer?
Good luck with everything you do!
Steve.
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