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Posted By Geoff Beckett
For most of us we travel about without carrying details of an immediate emergency contact. Frequently we have a mobile phone and so pose the question as to whether iosh members should endorse the East Anglian Ambulance Service "In case of Emergency (ICE)" campaign (supported by Falklands war hero Simon Weston and in association with Vodafone's annual life savers award).
The idea is you store the word "ICE" in your mobile phone address book, and against it enter the number of the person you would want to be contacted "In Case of Emergency".
In an emergency situation ambulance and hospital staff will then be able to quickly find out who your next of kin are and be able to contact them.
It's simple - everyone could do it, unless you use a PIN lock on your phone.
Comments please.
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Posted By MichaelM
Just a thought!
What would happen if some thief stole the mobile and decided to be sick and phone the emergency contact to say that e.g. someone was unconscious and they had been brought into hospital and they had discovered the word ICE on the mobile phone numbers directory?
We do live in a world where there are people who would do that.
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Posted By Ron Hunter
I suppose sooner or later I'm going to have to get one of these new-fangled mobile 'phones.
This proposal will really confuse the 'boy racer' fraternity, who will previously have allocated this code to their favourite provider of these ridiculously over-powered hi-fi's they like to annoy everyone with (ICE = In-Car Entertainment)
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Posted By David-J-Jones
I had information forwarded to me about the ICE idea this morning and decided to forward it to everyone one in our organisation mailbox( something I rarely would consider doing).
I received many responces, all very positive.
Common sentiment was simple idea but potentially extremely effective. (A sentiment that I would endorse)
I would suggest that success or failure of the system will depend on how effective its publicity campaign is.For success it needs to be standard working protol adopted by the emergancy services. As the promotion of safety is an integral element of IOSH I think it is more than reasonable that we support this initiative.
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Posted By Tyler
I must admit that I am inlined to agree with this simple but effective idea.
Perhaps once the general public embrace this idea and it becomes the standard routine with the emergency services, we can adress the comment concerning callous theives ringing these numbers as a 'joke'.
Perhaps (thinking well down the line now) phone manufacturers can build in a special place in the phones memory for such "In case of emergency (ICE)" numbers that can only be accessed by the phone's owner and the emergency services by use of a password (known, of course, to all emergency services).
In short, this idea should be promoted as a simple but effective idea.
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Posted By Andy Petrie
What a great idea, I'll certainly pass that on to colleagues in my organisation.
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Posted By peter gotch
Reference Michael's comment, the sicko thief can already do this with most of our phones, either by dialing "Home" or similar, or randomly picking a few numbers.
Let's see. Search Gr
Graeme
07780 xxx356
Brrr
"Hallo?"
"Is that Graeme"?
"Yes"
"Your partner's been taken off to hospital"
"But I don't have a partner"
"Oh sorry wrong number"
Hangs up.
Try again. Search Mi
Michael
07865 xxxYYY
Brr........
So the sicko can already cause a nuisance.
Problem [exacerbated in major emergency when people and their possessions separated]
is that the Emergency Services can't ring at random, cos they are supposed to contact next of kin before anyone else.
Therefore your mobile is not a lot of use to the Police etc, unless it has some hint as to who they should call.
So I think the ICE scheme is good idea.
Regards, Peter
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Posted By MichaelM
Peter
A good point, but....
How many thiefs would rub their hands in glee when they don't have to go to all of that bother?
I know I am being devils advocate and I do agree it is a good idea, but how do we get rid of the thiefs?
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Simple.
When your phone is stolen, call your own ICE number and say "Don't worry if some plonker calls saying I'm hurt".
Not difficult to ask the caller to describe you after that...
They should only have a few minutes before your phone company barrs calls from that phone anyway.
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Posted By Geoff Beckett
Thanks to members for their comments - the issue of hijacking of information is na obvious concern. However pulling some of the comments together it would seem that there is more lilelihood of such a scheme working if not only manufacturers put an ICE slot on hteir phone but also a guide of how to use it and what to do when a phone is stolen.
Fortunately the courts appear to be taking a more robust stand against such individuals - perhaps this will deter some.
From comments on TV it seems htat some manufacturers are taking this suggestion seriously and the emergency services see a potential protocol. Perhaps a member of the telecomms SG could comment?
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Posted By Lilian McCartney
Another emergency system available for people at home is the green cross box (don't know actual name).
You put a list of any medication/medical conditions and contact telephone numbers into this box and put it somewhere easily accessible by the emergency services (normally the fridge). You put the cross on the fridge door. You can also put the cross just inside your front door.
This is useful particularly for people living alone or vulnerable people. It can also be useful for elderly e.g if one takes ill then the other simply hands over the box and this saves time especially if upset.
You can get these at libraries, I expect some GP's may have them as well
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