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Posted By Paul Costelloe
I am becoming increasingly irritated by the growing references to the NEBOSH Diploma Parts 1 & 2 as NEBOSH 'Level 1 and Level 2 '.
This is promoting the perception amongst employers and others, that it is somehow a lower level qualification than the new Level 4 Diploma.
I do wish that NEBOSH had come up with a better title for the new qualification, but I would have expected that training providers such as one advertising in the August SHP, should know better than to refer to the 'old' Diploma as "Level 2"
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Posted By Jasonjg
You’re not alone in that feeling Paul.
Another statement that irritates me is the one where dip part 2 is now redundant and is a grandfather qualification yet I believe it is still running till 2008.
And just to tip the iceberg I was asked by a recruitment agency "how long do you expect it will take you to achieve the level 4?".
All this after stating on both CV and phone that I was due to sit part 2 exam this Dec.
I would like some definition as to this qualifications worth today. I think I may have placed my eggs in the wrong basket.
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Posted By Ken Dunn
Yeah and even more so when my General Certificate (awarded last August) says
"Level 3 Certificate in Occupational Health and Safety" on it!
Would indicate perhaps a higher level than level 2, especially to the uninitiated??
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney
Ken
What an interesting point you make!
Charles
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Posted By Paul Debbage
When NVQ level 4 first came out I seem to remember that Dip 2 was classed as a slightly higher qualification than the new level 4 and I am sure that this comment came from NEBOSH, mind you it would be nice for NEBOSH to make comment and rectify any misunderstandings, in addition IOSH could run an article or advertisement in SHP to ensure all who read the magazine are apprised of the situation
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Posted By Paul Costelloe
Paul,
Excellent idea - if Hazel Harvey reads this, perhaps she could use her influence to see if an SHP article could be run ?
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
You have to remember that NEBOSH is only one of our accredited qualifications, if we were to run an article and there have been similar in the past, it will need to cover all qualifcations that we accredit for fairness purposes.
The NEBOSH level 4 Diploma will I believe become a NEBOSH level 6 Diploma in due course to acccount for the changes made to the QCA framework made last September. This equates in depth to a Bachelors degree, although not of course in breadth as a Bachelors programme is much longer. The Diploma part 2 was never placed on the framework (and I don't know whether there are any plans to)so it is difficult to make a comparison of this nature in the same way.
However, IOSH have no plans to phase out the acceptance of the part 2 for membership purposes for some time yet.
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Posted By Bob Askew
Yes - it's confusing. The 'levels' refer to the National Qualifications Framework.
NEBOSH don't offer anything at Levels 1 or 2.
The NEBOSH Level 3 Certificate and the British Safety Council Awards Level 3 Certificate in Occupational Safety and Health both lead to Tech IOSH (assuming you've got five years' experience in a health and safety role).
The NEBOSH Level 4 Diploma will have to be renamed soon as the NEBOSH Level 6 Diploma (because of new levels). This, and the British Safety Council Awards Level 6 Diploma in Occupational Safety and Health both lead to Grad IOSH.
Hope this helps !
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Posted By Hazel Harvey
I have just had anewsletter from NEBOSH that says they intend to call the 'level 4' Diploma, the NEBOSH National Diploma in Occupational Health and Safety, without any level indication.
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Posted By Paul Costelloe
Bob,
Thanks - Whilst your comments are perfectly correct, I think you're assuming that I'm the one who is confused though.
I have as clear an understanding of the framework as yourself. My point was that 'others' are confusing 'Levels' and 'Parts'.
I hope that those 'others' read and understand your comments.
Best regards
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Posted By J Knight
And of course there is the fact that the Part II was designed to meet an earlier version of Level 4 in any event, so notwithstanding Hazel's comments, which are obviously technically correct, the Part II will also be a Level 6 qualification under the the new scheme, as will a BSc/BA obtained in say, 1968, before all this standardisation was even considered,
John
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