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#1 Posted : 04 August 2005 15:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham HSE have produced the above publication; does anyone have practical experience of implementing it? Was it good, bad or too much trouble? I have interest to declare in that I strongly believe that an organisation should investigate to learn and prevent further accidents AND that this should be done regardless of what the regulators may or may not do.
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#2 Posted : 04 August 2005 16:17:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Mains I think that it is a good resource and reasonably priced at £9.50 I found that I didn't learn a great deal from it but it is a handy reference and one that may come in useful for those difficult or unusual incidents that crop up.
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#3 Posted : 05 August 2005 05:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Derek Holt The investigation of accidents and in my opinion near misses, in order to establish root cause and then to formulate control measures to reduce the probability of a reoccurence, should be a fundamental element of any H&S MS. This is implicit in most national/international framework models, even more so if you apply a quality perspective to health and safety management. Simply put, identify the problem (non-conformance), conduct analysis, decide on a corrective action and implement. Not forgetting the feedback loop to measure effectiveness of the new action.
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#4 Posted : 05 August 2005 08:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson Dear All, Having read HSG245 in great detail, I believe it to be a lost opportunity by becoming too focussed on blaming management. Whilst it is better than nothing, there are far better books on accident investigation. The two I would strongly recommend are Appollo Apollo Root Cause Analysis - A New Way Of Thinking by Dean L Ganno & Accident Investigation Techniques: Basic Theories, Analytical Methods and Applications Jeffrey S. Oakley, Ph.D., CSP Regards Adrian Watson
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#5 Posted : 05 August 2005 08:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By steven bentham Thank you for your comments.
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#6 Posted : 05 August 2005 09:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Frank Hallett I tend to agree with Adrian but not necessarily for the same reasons. As HSG 245 was a simple extension of HSG65 it is definitley a lost opportunity! If you use HSG65 in conjunction with "Accident Investigation Techniques: Basic Theories, Analytical Methods and Applications" to produce your AI systems; you will certainly get a better result. Frank Hallett
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