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#1 Posted : 08 August 2005 08:52:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kim Sunley Who should do new and expectant mother risk assessments? A safety professional An occupational health nurse A comptent manager trained in health and safety (inculuding new and expectant mother risk assessments) Opinions please?
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#2 Posted : 08 August 2005 09:09:00(UTC)
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Posted By Paul Bellis idealy the Occupational Health Nurse - I conjunction with the Manager, th nurse is the expert in what ill health effects thay may be encounterred in the work, the other knows what the lady does day to day and how she does it also the manager is able to put remedies etc in place. Paul
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#3 Posted : 08 August 2005 09:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis All of them plus the person most concerned - the expectant mother herself. I get very worried at times that risk assessments are perceived as something only professionals and managers can input into. Who is after all best able to clarify their particular needs and abilities. Bob
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#4 Posted : 08 August 2005 11:04:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kim Sunley Yes - I forgot to add the person who is a new or expectant mother and their trade union safety representative. but should you always involve a occupational health nurse?
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#5 Posted : 08 August 2005 11:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Only if one is available but the mother to be should be able to deal with most issues with any representative she may have. Don't forget she has access to her own medical practitioner and nurse if necessary. Bob
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#6 Posted : 08 August 2005 11:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Eric Burt Slightly off-topic........ I had a call one day from the manager of a pregnant employee who asked me to conduct the risk assessment because, as the Health and Safety Officer, I was responsible for all the pregnant women! Not true m'lud!
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#7 Posted : 08 August 2005 12:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jez Corfield In most circumstances the line manager and the individual themselves can complete an assessment, the specific risk criteria are detailed by the HSE, and only if the assessment hits any of these specific risk areas would I suggest involving the OH nurse or HS Manager, (might be different in a nuclear power plant or chemical works, though). I have a straightford 'pregnant lady' risk assessment document if anyone wants one (please email me). Jez Corfield
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#8 Posted : 08 August 2005 17:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By MichaelM Jez If pregnant lady is not "straightforward" does the risk assessment still cover her?
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#9 Posted : 09 August 2005 11:20:00(UTC)
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Posted By Fran Holt is a pregnant lady ever straightforward?!!
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#10 Posted : 09 August 2005 12:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By Craigy Don't forget about the assessment post birth......upon return to work....we have a policy on this subject...'e' mail me direct and i will send it to you.
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#11 Posted : 09 August 2005 13:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adam Jackson In response to the first line of the question, presumably their partner has already seen to that...
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#12 Posted : 09 August 2005 14:56:00(UTC)
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Posted By Cathy Ricketts We train our managers in carrying out what are known as occupational health support risk assessments. These are not medical assessments but enable the manager to discuss with an employee foreseeable risks that might arise for their condition (this includes pregnancy, back conditions etc). We dont have occupational Health nurse available on site but do refer externally where specialist help is required. The managers have some guidelines to help them carry out these risk assessments and employees find them very supportive. This also fits in well with return to work interviews following absence. Pregnancy risk assessments shouldnt be rocket science if approached in a practical and sensible manner. Risks will varry according to the individual and their environment and as the pregnancy progresses.
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#13 Posted : 09 August 2005 15:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight We ask line managers or HR to do these. Occy Health shouldn't have to be involved as pregnancy is not ill health; having said this it depends on just what you are doing. We have nowt to do with teratogens, though soft cheese does come into the equation occasionally. If we were a chemical company (say) I might want to use occy health for general advice, but the actual RA should still be done in discussion between the pregnant woman (and have you noticed how it's only ever women who get pregnant, come on guys, we can do it, get your acts together!) and her line manager, John
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#14 Posted : 09 August 2005 15:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Mike Craven John's last comment reminds me of how we issued a new policy and procedure on Pregnant Workers risk assessments in the Post Office a number of years ago. Each branch was provided with the policy and procedure and a risk assessment checklist and form "to be completed whenever a member of staff was known to be pregnant." We were carrying out an audit at one particular branch and were asking one rather keen manager to produce his risk assessments. He duly obliged and allowed us sight of VDU, manual handling. lone working, etc... and a pregnant workers risk assessment. I was confused, all members of staff at this small branch were male!!. I challenged the manager and he told me that he had done the risk assessment "in theory" by getting one of the blokes to "imagine being pregnant" - the mind boggles!!!! Mike
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#15 Posted : 10 August 2005 10:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jez Corfield RE: 'Pregnant Ladies' A. When it isnt straightforward, then do a regular full risk assessment. A. Most of our 'pregnant ladies' are very straightforward, have had an issue in some offices with finding rooms for 'expressing' - which sometimes result in the manager getting kicked out for an extended tea break.... Jez
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