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#1 Posted : 19 August 2005 12:26:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jason McQueen We recently had an accident involving a pressurised air driven hand tool. Upon investigation, the damage to the hose was cumulative over a period of time resulting in the failure. I asked and there is no inspection of hand tools before use or scheduled inspection systems. I was wondering what systems other people used etc as Im trying to devise a workable system.
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#2 Posted : 19 August 2005 12:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Jason From your email address this suggests a factory accident. In which case there is potentially a weakness in the Pressure Systems management going on here. The system definition will depend on what your competent person has decided and some of these people do include the flexible hoses up to the tool. If they have not done so it is covered under PUWER and the person inspecting the Pressure systems should be ablke to assist in defining the checks and their periodicity. I would be looking for a weekly recorded check by operative as a start and possibly monthly or six monthly, depending on service use for a more detailed look - but a scheme is urgently required. The wording of most regs of this type use the phrase "adequately maintained" or words to that effect. This actually is a strict liability - if something fails it, de facto, is not adequately maintained. Bob
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#3 Posted : 19 August 2005 13:05:00(UTC)
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Posted By Kieran J Duignan Ergonomic risk analysis. This considers the foreseeable hazards in relation to task goals, work design and layout as well as other equipment and furniture, physical and psychological attributes of users. If you need some references,I should be pleased to look them up.
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#4 Posted : 19 August 2005 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By anon1234 What on earth has this to do with 'ergonomic risk analysis' The question was about what inspections are done and how on hand held tools.
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#5 Posted : 19 August 2005 16:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Dee Jason, Within our workshop where hand tools are used frequently we have started to make each of the guys responsible for a certain piece of equipment or number of tools. They then check these on a 'regular' (daily/weekly/monthly) basis and sign off a register. It is one of their objectives that their are responsible for 'x' piece of kit and they each know should there be an issue it needs to be red tagged and taken out of use. We have only just begun using the system and I see it as a starting point rather than a set in stone system. Hope this helps. Dee
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#6 Posted : 19 August 2005 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By DavidHaddon Making workers responsible for reporting defective kit is a great idea, getting them to perform visual inspections on basic equipment is no problem. What about more complicated kit? i.e. with moving parts Are they competent to make those kind of decisions on air-drills/spanners ?
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#7 Posted : 20 August 2005 17:43:00(UTC)
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Posted By Merv Newman I have a check list for tool box/tool draw inspections - hammers, screwdrivers etc. (but not pressure hoses, this should have been picked up on a general area audit or inspection - area supervisor's responsibility) As it is in table format it won't copy to here so if any one would like a copy please send me an e-mail. No point in asking through this thread as I will probably never look at it again. So there ! Merv
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#8 Posted : 21 August 2005 12:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Higginson Jason If the damage was cumulative, was it not evident over a period of time? What reporting procedures are in place for defective equipment? If operatives are responsible for a pre-use check of equipment (not necessarily documented) and are instructed in who to report defects to, the problem couldn't result in an accident? Kind regards Nick
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#9 Posted : 22 August 2005 09:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Nick I think you're being a little harsh with Jason here. The problem with these things is that without proiper inspection it may not be picked up; and even with proper inspection failure points may still be hidden. The leading case on this concerned a lift winding cable at a colliery. It failed even though it had been inspected weekly; Held that the maintenance was not adequate. Employers do however need some system in place for checking/monitoring such things and these do not appear to have been in place. Bob
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#10 Posted : 22 August 2005 10:38:00(UTC)
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Posted By Adrian Watson Dear Jason, There appears to be a number of issues here! From past experience I would suggest that you have a two tier approach. Firstly: Train users so that they know how to check their equipment properly. Then, instruct them to check their equipment before first use or at the start of the shift if they work on a fixed station. Users should also be instructed to report any faults immediately to the supervisor. Then instruct supervisors to ask all users when they first see them "have you any faults to report". The supervisor then has to log the check and any faults in a day book. The supervisor also has to get any defective equipment repaired or replaced. If necessary the supervisor should relocate the worker to another task if the tool cannot be repaired or replaced. Supervisors should carry out checks when they do their rounds. If the supervisor finds any defective equipment, then (s)he should investigate the reason and take appropriate disciplinary action against the user, where necessary. Managers should also carry out checks when they do their rounds. If the manager finds any defective equipment, then (s)he should investigate the reason and take appropriate disciplinary action against the supervisor, where necessary. Secondly: Critical items should be identified and inspection sheets should be produced. Routine documented checks should be carried out on these items at suitable intervals. The inspection sheets should require measurements and readings to be recorded. This prevents tick box mania. It also ensures proper checks are carried out and allows trends to be evaluated. Trends should be plotted on a chart and presented to management at appropriate intervals. This serves two purposes; it allows proper monitoring of the equipment and ensures measurements are carried out at the proper time. This system ensures that critical checks are recorded and that users, supervisors and managers are involved. It also minimises paperwork but allows trends to be identified. For example, if chisels are being routinely damaged, you can investigate why and either find a better tool or ensure that users are better trained. Hope this helps. Regards Adrian Watson
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#11 Posted : 22 August 2005 13:01:00(UTC)
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Posted By Jason McQueen Thanks for all the response. Im relatively new to the company and so still finding out what we do and dont have etc. You are correct in your assumptions that there is no routine inspections of hand tools. Something which i intend to rectify.
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#12 Posted : 22 August 2005 16:40:00(UTC)
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Posted By Nick Higginson Bob Not sure how you saw my posting as harsh? It certainly wasn't my intention. I am trying to point out that not every tool and piece of equipment needs a formal documented inspection - this is impractical and counter-productive. There is a huge difference in the level of risk presented by a hand tool and a lift winding mechanism! Kind regards Nick
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#13 Posted : 23 August 2005 09:15:00(UTC)
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Posted By Robert K Lewis Nick Merely pointing out that even weekly or daily inspections are not fool proof and the employer is still liable if it fails. I was hoping that Jason's company might actually be doing something rather than nothing. Bob
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