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Posted By PT
Security Access Systems
Good Afternoon good people. I’m currently looking for any of you that are or have used access security systems. I work as a safety professional in the construction industry and need to source suitable systems for different projects throughout the UK. These may be cardkeys, swipe cards, hand scanners, turnstiles etc. For those of you that have used these systems, your opinions on ease of use, costing etc would be gratefully appreciated.
If you have any contact details of providers, can you please forward these directly to me?
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
PT.
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Posted By JEFFREY SMITH
The answer, my friend, is blowing...
Actually the answer lies in what you are really trying to achieve. Are you trying to keep unwanted persons from a site? a building? a room? keep people in? use as a guide to persons on the site in case of emergency?
Various different systems will generate various different answers.
Sorry to be of little help but please feel free to e-mail me with reasons and we can then come up with a possible way forward.
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Posted By PT
What I'm after is a recorded system where I can get information on how many subbies are on site, for various reasons e.g. fire evacuations, security etc. currently we use a paper signing-in system (which is easily abused). I'm after names of providers and any comments about the services that they have provided.
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Posted By JEFFREY SMITH
What about the following:
Have a single point of access to the site and everyone entering has to have clearance of some sort (a numbered card from a rack would be a good idea). Subbies coming on would also have to book in and get a card.
Upon exiting the site, the cards would have to be handed in.
Whilst this could be labour intensive to set up and get everyone's agreement, it could be the cheapest and best way of keeping tabs on a transient site population. It is used to great effect on the majority of MOD sites (honestly!). You would also need someone employed to oversee this and permanently in place (I assume you have security on the site?).
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Posted By James M
Be careful what you declare you are using the system for and what you actually use it for. Reason why- A principal contractor in London declared this type of system was for fire and emergency procedures. Employees were then deducted wages for swiping out early from site.
The evidence confirming this was from the swipe card print out. A solicitor's letter asking question like: Why was the swipe system being used to monitor the personnel in and out of site without their knowledge or permission and please provide proof that the person operating this system (normally a minimum wage - non British national) and using this information is trained in receiving this information in accordance with the Data Protection Act.
End result was that the personnel were reimbursed and the principal contractor had to pay the solicitor’s fees.
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Posted By PT
Jeffrey, I take it you don’t work in the construction industry? Most of the cards would end up littering the site.
I have used swipe cards (Card Keys) on other projects however; operatives tend to lose/forget the cards when they turn up for work.
There is also the other risk of cardkeys that are worn around the neck on a chain (think of using rotating machinery?).
The issue relating to employees is not a great issue (as we are the PC and don’t employ site operatives, only managerial staff). For the DTA, we don’t contract out management and therefore the system will remain with ourselves and form part of our QA system (which accommodates for The Act).
Have any of you chaps used/recommend these access systems?
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Posted By JEFFREY SMITH
I do not envy you this job and , no, I don't work on a construction site.
If cards etc will end up littering the site, I cannot see swipe entry working or identity cards being the key. Tightening down on the paper signing entry seems, to me, to be the only way and making sure the system is not abused (how do they abuse the system currently?) - maybe it's just me being naive or just stupid (not strange on either front!).
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Posted By PT
Jeffrey, thanks for your imput. This is a request from Clients (for some projects). The nature of the beast is that each site will be assessed to look at the viable options (dependent on restrictions). Many of our sites use paper systems (with no problems) however, it is not always practical.
I’m really after others that can highlight cost effective access system and contact details….
Regards
PT.
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Posted By James M
most sites charge at least £5 for a replacement card and if they don't have their card they can't get on site and to work on time.
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