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#1 Posted : 06 September 2005 15:11:00(UTC)
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Posted By JAI Afternoon Under the new working at height regs i have been tasked with carrying out some risk assessments for the access and egress of our Dozers, Excavators and Shovels The men have to climb a vertical ladder (about 7 ft in height) and then lean backwards to open the cab door before entering I am not happy with this practice at all and nor will an inspector be if there is an accident 1. Does anyone have any guidance/info they can offer me on the risk assessment? 2. I am looking for a company that specialises in providing a safe access system the only company i have came across is Australian any UK takers tanks
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#2 Posted : 06 September 2005 15:19:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ian Goddard ive just been on the internet and there is a website which do custom ladders may be they may help. www.ladders-online.com regards Ian Goddard
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#3 Posted : 06 September 2005 17:42:00(UTC)
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Posted By Sean McIntyre I worked in the mining operations in australian and access and egress from plant suck as dozers, graders, excavators was always an issue. Extra hand and foot holds were sometimes added, sometimes additional platforms. You want to ensure that at least 3 points of contact can be maintained at all times. What make of equipment is it eg CAT. I might be able to get some photos.
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#4 Posted : 06 September 2005 17:53:00(UTC)
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Posted By George Wedgwood You have also unearthed a minefield! Yes, I have been looking at this also and talking to manufacturers and the HSE for 2 years now and with little progress. The dealers are too big and take too long to shift their production designs to accommodate small requests from purchasers for 'safety' additions! They always say that 'we don't get asked for safety additions like proper stairs, sliding doors and fences to stop falls, because they cost more! When challenged with the 'safe product' laws they stop discussing and threaten the HSE! Anyway, I know now that the HSE are happy that the buyer owns the risks and must do something like retro-fit. We have worked with Liebherr and they were good at providing stairs and platforms to an agreed design. Such fitting could compromise the CE certification but the HSE say that they are not worried about that so long as risks to the operators are managed. There are several companies that can retro-fit decent stairs, (I see you have found Hedweld of Aus!) fences, steps, guards etc but ther are mainly smaller companies and local. We have found a few good manufacturing companies that can do the welding and fitting to a reasonable standard and we are starting to recommend specific firms to do our work across the country (60 odd depots around the UK with material handling cranes, fels, etc.) One key document that you will find useful is the new BS EN 13586:2004 for Cranes - Access. Few suppliers know about it (Caterpillar certainly did not) so it is worth mentioning if buying new and if retro-fitting, it gives a good guide as to the requirements for safe access. If you would like to discuss it further, please email or call me for a chat. Regards, George 07836 718908
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#5 Posted : 06 September 2005 20:48:00(UTC)
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Posted By Stuart Nagle This bears remarkable similarity to the problems associated with access to flatbed trailers (re slips trips and falls and working on), which HSE contracted a research report on some time ago, but to date I think this too is still nowhere to be seen. Much discussion and HSE wanting results, but little action outside reasearch by companies and industry groups that does not seem to materialise in any positive moves.... very frustrating... Stuart
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