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Posted By Alan R Rose
Could i ask for some help please.
I work as a volunteer for age concern a few days a month.
I have been approached by one of the managers asking why there are now regulations being implemented to put eye wash bottles in all the mini buses that collect and drop off clients to day care centres.
He was quite annoyed and after calming him down, tried to find an answer, but unfortunatley cannot find anything.
All the buses carry first-aid, and each of the escorts on the buses has basic first aid training. If anything magor happens - heart attack etc all escorts carry a mobile and would call emergency services. Defibrillators are not available, and the escorts who are able bodied people are part time or volunteers also.
The actual request came from an admin clerk at head office, who does not know either, but has apparantley appointed herself as 'safety person'.
This is something i am raising as an issue (competancy etc) with the trustees.
Kind regards to all
Alan Rose
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Posted By John Webster
Never heard of anything like this. Eye wash bottles are for use where there is a risk of harmful substances getting in the eye, ie laboratories, workshops etc. Even there, they are, hopefully, rarely used so I really cannot see what risk they would be protecting against.
Perhaps someone wants your first aid box to carry a small pouch of irrigation water?
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Posted By J Knight
Hi Alan,
There are no regulations requiring eyewash in minibuses. The recommended contents for minbus first aid kits are slightly different from those in general workplaces; they should for example contain scissors or a seatbelt cutter, but in general you are required to carry out a risk assessment to determine what first aid provision you need to make; guidance is just guidnace, not a substitute for thought. If you think you need eyewash, provide it, if you don't, don't.
I've spent the last ten years working for employers who operate minibuses under Section 19 permits, and this is the first time I've heard this particular suggestion,
John
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Posted By Mark Talbot
Instead of running around trying to find the new legislation, why not ask the person directly?
Where does the instruction come from, and on what grounds?
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Posted By Alan R Rose
John
What is a section 19 permit?
Regards
Alan Rose
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Posted By J Knight
It's a permit which allows voluntary and charitable organisations to operate minibuses for indirect hire or reward without having to register as PCV operators. Indirect hire or reward includes providing minibuses for the use of people who pay a fee for care, or who have a fee paid on their behalf, which fee then allows them to use the minibus. The permit costs £8 (I think) and lasts for the life of the vehicle,
John
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