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#1 Posted : 26 September 2005 17:21:00(UTC)
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Posted By stevehaigh New to me!!!!! It seems care homes do not need a fire certificate as they are reistered under the care standards. Can anyone confirm this?
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#2 Posted : 26 September 2005 19:46:00(UTC)
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Posted By Ken Taylor Don't worry, Steve. Very soon we shall all be told to tear up our fire certificates in favour of fire risk assessments and effective fire plans - under the Regulatory Reform Order.
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#3 Posted : 27 September 2005 09:44:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Care Homes do not need a fire certificate as they are excluded by the secretary of state. I can't be bothered (and I haven't got time this morning) to look up the actual law, but the secretary of state, in this case presumably the home secretary, has the power to exclude certain industries from the requirement for fire certificates, and care homes are so excluded. And yes, its true, from April next year fire certificates go up in smoke anyway, John
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#4 Posted : 27 September 2005 10:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Hi Folks, As it happens I'm in the late stages of compiling a legal register, and a last minute entry is the Fire Certificates (Special Premises) Regulations 1976, Regulation 15 of which allows exemption for types of work premises as the secretary of state sees fit. Care homes are exempted under Reg 15 of these regs, John
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#5 Posted : 27 September 2005 11:31:00(UTC)
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Posted By jackw. Hi, confirmed. In fact care settings in general did not require a certificate under the regulations:- care homes, day centres including those for people with a range of additional needs:- dementia, learning difficulties, physical disabilities etc. Ironic, but if they had an office attached with more than 20 people or more than 10 located above ground a fire certificate is required. Yet you can locate disabled clients above ground level. Of course, as has been stated, each property should have a fire risk assessment, which should consider how appropriate this practice is. Cheers
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#6 Posted : 28 September 2005 11:41:00(UTC)
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Posted By David Bruce One of my clients is a residential care home. Whilst what you say is true, they do receive regular visits from the local fire officer and this has led to the client having excellent physical controls and fire evacuation procedures. So whilst it may appear that they are legally less strictly controlled that an office, in truth this is far from the case, at least in this instance.
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