Posted By stevehaigh I believe it goes, #QUANTITY,quantity quantity quality,quality safety

Posted By Tony Power You cannot have a good quality system without a good safety system or a good safety system without a good quality system.

Posted By Jim Walker Any commercial concern has to keep its customers happy - or go bust! Generally customers are only concerned that the price is right and the product or service is good value (Quality). Unfortunately in our avaricious society we don't give a damn if the widget manufacturer has five fatal accidents a year, just so long as the widgets do their job and are cheap. Has anyone, out there, stopped buying goods or services from the convicted killers documented every month in TSP? Does anyone work for a company that has put out a tender and eliminated a contractor entirely on the basis of their safety record? If our society placed compassion before cash, then CO-OP (with its ethical trading policy) would be number one retailer & bank. With the possible exception of Jarvis, who else (directors & shareholders), has suffered as a consequence of safety failings of the big accidents in the past 20 years? We most likely all have company slogans saying safety first - rubbish its job & pay packet first. Unless safety failings really hit the bottom line: the big (only because it was a Scottish court) Transco fine is a fraction of a of their earnings. And hit the directors (a ten year ban from any boardroom would work better than any jail sentence) then all the rest is just empty words.