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#1 Posted : 05 October 2005 14:49:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lauren Shearer Can anyone help? I recently carried out a golf course inspection. There has been quite a serious accident where a club member slipped on the slope approaching one of the tees and injured themselves. I have advised the course to install stairs up to the tee but there is some confusion over whether a handrail is required. The problem is that it is the ladies tee and therefore in front of the gents tee area? It could therefore be a distraction for other players and there is the possibility of tee shots hitting the rail and rebounding back. Can we insist on the handrail? Cheers Laurs
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#2 Posted : 05 October 2005 14:59:00(UTC)
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Posted By Charley Farley-Trelawney Lauren Personal feelings are that as far as foreseeable risk goes there would indeed be an increase by the installation of a handrail, one would assume that if they were capable of 18 holes then the short distance to go to the tee would not require the assistance of the handrail, I would have to say that your assessment of tee shots hitting the HR and firing off where ever is a correct one, I believe the tees are usually in front of the Men’s, this would equate to 'straight' shots at that level hitting the rail, that is unless I were playing and the ball would have little chance of being hit in a straight line. Would it not be possible to increase the amount of steps and therefore make the climb little more than a very slight step? I appreciate al the slip tip saga etc, but I would be content that this out ways the rebound from what is little more than a projectile fired at approx 160mph so I am led to believe. Good Luck CFT
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#3 Posted : 05 October 2005 15:55:00(UTC)
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Posted By Gareth Bryan Just a thought, why have steps, after all it is a golf course which by its very nature will have a range of features from bunkers to possibly lakes or ponds. Are you going to provide steps in and out of bunkers, fences around the water, cut down the trees in case a ball hits one and bounced back into someone? Golfers usually wear spiked shoes to provide extra grip, etc. what was the cause of this nast accident?
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#4 Posted : 05 October 2005 16:00:00(UTC)
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Posted By Rob T I'm sorry lauren but I don't agree that you should provide anything. I used to inspect LA golf courses albeit a few years ago and as far as my unit were concerned hills and slopes were a natural aspect of the course. Unless there is anything that compounds a natural risk by unnatural means e.g. unseen trenches, felled trees etc. then there would be no liability. If you consider National Trust walks in hills and mountains, you wouldn't expect steps to be cut into slopes would you?
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#5 Posted : 05 October 2005 16:10:00(UTC)
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Posted By Laurs Thanks for your comments -they reflect the different views in the office! The club in question are not so concerned about the legal aspect but more a practical way to fulfill what they see as their moral responsibility. The slope is particularly steep and this is what has caused the problem. However, it is a case of trying to reduce the risk without taking the chalenge aspect away from the sport. Thanks again LS
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#6 Posted : 05 October 2005 16:18:00(UTC)
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Posted By Lorraine Shuker Rob ~ actually the National Trust often cut steps into slopes on popular footpaths
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#7 Posted : 05 October 2005 16:23:00(UTC)
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Posted By J Knight Agree with Rob T on this one; the National Trust cutting steps and so on is more to do with erosion control and improving access from a customer service POV than risk control, John
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